Samsung unveils 2018 QLED TVs

[HEXUS]

Highlights include; ambient mode, SmartThings with Bixby, and the 'invisible' connector.

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[ETR316]

I'm confused, I thought they were big on getting micro Led out? "mLED"

[Bagpuss]

I sometimes think I'm the only person left on the planet who is unwilling to spend more than £500 on a TV or £400 on a GPU.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I sometimes think I'm the only person left on the planet who is unwilling to spend more than £500 on a TV or £400 on a GPU.

TVs are probably more justifiable,as its something that can last a very long time,but a £400 graphics card not so much.

[ohmaheid]

I sometimes think I'm the only person left on the planet who is unwilling to spend more than £500 on a TV or £400 on a GPU.

TVs are probably more justifiable,as its something that can last a very long time,but a £400 graphics card not so much.

Maybe they used to be (CRT screens). Not so much now. Think yourself lucky if you can get 5 years out of a modern flat panel before having a VERY expensive repair bill for knackered back-lights...or irreversible screen burn. (OLED).

[virtuo]

Think yourself lucky if you can get 5 years out of a modern flat panel before having a VERY expensive repair bill for knackered back-lights...or irreversible screen burn. (OLED).

I think these days, you'd be daft buying anything that didn't come with a standard 5 year warranty anyway. 5 years is usually a good enough upgrade cycle.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Maybe they used to be (CRT screens). Not so much now. Think yourself lucky if you can get 5 years out of a modern flat panel before having a VERY expensive repair bill for knackered back-lights...or irreversible screen burn. (OLED).

One of my relatives 720p LCD Toshibas lasted nearly a decade,before screen burn started to be noticeable,but it works still. It also was a £1000 TV.

[3dcandy]

Bedroom tv is ancient - no screen burn or backlight issues yet. Toshiba going strong though it is "only" 1080i

[chj]

I know OLED used to suffer screen burn really bad, has the technology developed to prevent that now?

[Yoyoyo69]

Bedroom tv is ancient - no screen burn or backlight issues yet. Toshiba going strong though it is "only" 1080i

Yeah, Toshiba used to be decent back then (decade ago) but are just a cheap rebrand nuw and unreliable.

I've have good and bad experiences with flat screens.

[yeeeeman]

Samsung guys are smart. Instead of investing in OLED (which is expensive, needs research, etc), they created this new tech, which is not far off the normal LED panels and called it QLED. Do you see the point here? QLED/OLED. They look quite the same, right? In general, users do not know exactly the names or the specific technology, so when they hear QLED they could this it is an OLED from Sammy. So they buy it. Great thinking Samsung!

[ohmaheid]

I bought mine from John Lewis, precisely because they guarantee 'some' of their TV's for 5 years.( it was about £50 more expensive than standard) It packed in after 3 years and the repair guy told me it would've cost £280 to fix if I hadn't had the guarantee.
I think the standard guarantee period is 2 years.

[DanceswithUnix]

I bought mine from John Lewis, precisely because they guarantee 'some' of their TV's for 5 years.( it was about £50 more expensive than standard) It packed in after 3 years and the repair guy told me it would've cost £280 to fix if I hadn't had the guarantee.
I think the standard guarantee period is 2 years.

Unlucky, the only TV I have seen fail in recent years is a bedroom 24" set which started making a buzzing noise. I suspect it is the power brick failing not the TV, but it cost something like £120 about 7 years ago so doesn't seem worth spending any real money on.

I know a lot of people who would love to have their TV fail as they can't justify replacement of a working set but what they have is really out of date.

[dannyboy75]

Samsung guys are smart. Instead of investing in OLED (which is expensive, needs research, etc), they created this new tech, which is not far off the normal LED panels and called it QLED. Do you see the point here? QLED/OLED. They look quite the same, right? In general, users do not know exactly the names or the specific technology, so when they hear QLED they could this it is an OLED from Sammy. So they buy it. Great thinking Samsung!

Also, Q comes after O in the alphabet, so QLED must be better! ;-)

Joking aside, I'm interested to know people's thoughts on QLED / OLED / mLED ?

As I understand it, QLED and mLED are basically still LED, just with finer backlighting control to try and match the deeper blacks that OLED offers? But less prone to burn-in than OLED?

[Smudger]

Main problem with OLED seems to be that it can't go as bright as LED/LCD. The UHD Premium club rules state that in order to be certified, the telly has to be able to do 1000NITS, whereas OLEDs can only do up to about 700NITS. I'm not sure how much difference it makes, whether having your retinas burnt by an extra 300 candles makes you enjoy the film more.

And a lot of it is whether the normal bloke in the street notices or cares. I've got the Sammy KS7000, which is Quantum Dot (the Q in QLED), but not QLED. I enjoy films on it. Would I change it? Maybe for a bigger one, as 4k and HDR have shorter viewing distances than HD tellies. But I'm please with the picture quality, and tend to be too engrossed in the film to think "oh, I wish that black was deeper".

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Main problem with OLED seems to be that it can't go as bright as LED/LCD. The UHD Premium club rules state that in order to be certified, the telly has to be able to do 1000NITS, whereas OLEDs can only do up to about 700NITS. I'm not sure how much difference it makes, whether having your retinas burnt by an extra 300 candles makes you enjoy the film more.

And a lot of it is whether the normal bloke in the street notices or cares. I've got the Sammy KS7000, which is Quantum Dot (the Q in QLED), but not QLED. I enjoy films on it. Would I change it? Maybe for a bigger one, as 4k and HDR have shorter viewing distances than HD tellies. But I'm please with the picture quality, and tend to be too engrossed in the film to think "oh, I wish that black was deeper".

Have the model from the same series TV at home,and the picture quality is amazing(even the speakers are better than exected) - I think the most impressive aspect is the 1080p to 4K upscaling for me,which is done very well.

Edit!!

Its 1000NITS peak brightness - IIRC,sustained brightness is a bit less.