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    Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Powerful computer features up to 28C/56T Xeon CPU, Radeon Pro Vega II Duo graphics.
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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    $1,000 for a monitor stand is peak Apple.
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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Cheese grater anyone?

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Expensive base price with relatively low end hardware - check
    Proprietary sockets for the gpu(s), ssds etc - check
    No stand with the monitor (ugly vents imo) and the stand costs $1000 (so that will be £1000 in the UK then)with what looks to be a proprietary connector meaning you need the vesa mount at $199 for another stand...

    Mac Pro's case is ugly imo, although I do like the slide off casing, except if it goes under a desk....

    I like the 'channelled' air flow approach to the layout, it should be fairly efficient and quiet, shame we don't get a bit more of that on the pc side of things.

    No idea why it has sata connectors on the inside because it has nowhere to store that type of drive... and the only storage it has uses proprietary sockets...

    If you think about it objectively this new mac pro is no more upgradable than the old one.... yes you can add more stuff to it but you can't do it yourself like the old g5/xeon cheese grater case of old...

    I'm technically the target market for this and only thing I've seen in it that makes me think it's a 'nice product' is the cooling set up which is easy to do if everything in the case is basically using proprietary connectors... I'm still far more interested in next threadripper or a sweet spot 16core rzyen 3

    The screen looks fairly nice (well minus the case), but 30inch is too big for me personally, but I'm sure there will be other options out at some point because it seems to be the only one at those specs from a quick google.

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    That stand does less than the one Dell include with their P and U series - much less height adjustment, no rotate on the base.

    Shiny and pretty, but again not a pro product.

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Jesus. $6000/£6000 for a screen like that is a bargain and a half (if the spec sheet is accurate)

    Very un-Apple

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    1000 nits sustained, full screen brightness and 1600 nits peak, on a monitor you are sitting close to. Who's going to be able to use that without sunglasses on and without being blinded?

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    An official introductory feature video for those interested.


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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Quote Originally Posted by mtyson View Post
    An official introductory feature video for those interested.


    So you have almost trillion valued company with billions in cash, and they came up with this?!!!

    I laughed hard, but in the end I am sad for all Apple fans.

    For the company claiming to be so ecological oriented but then makes the case that will need liters and liters of water to carve out that "3D" mesh.

    Interesting also how they disabled the comments on their video.

    Apple needs new leadership. Existing one is so full of themselves and they forgot the mission.
    The more you live, less you die. More you play, more you die. Isn't it great.

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Quote Originally Posted by LSG501 View Post
    Expensive base price with relatively low end hardware - check
    Proprietary sockets for the gpu(s), ssds etc - check
    No stand with the monitor (ugly vents imo) and the stand costs $1000 (so that will be £1000 in the UK then)with what looks to be a proprietary connector meaning you need the vesa mount at $199 for another stand...

    Mac Pro's case is ugly imo, although I do like the slide off casing, except if it goes under a desk....

    I like the 'channelled' air flow approach to the layout, it should be fairly efficient and quiet, shame we don't get a bit more of that on the pc side of things.

    No idea why it has sata connectors on the inside because it has nowhere to store that type of drive... and the only storage it has uses proprietary sockets...

    If you think about it objectively this new mac pro is no more upgradable than the old one.... yes you can add more stuff to it but you can't do it yourself like the old g5/xeon cheese grater case of old...

    I'm technically the target market for this and only thing I've seen in it that makes me think it's a 'nice product' is the cooling set up which is easy to do if everything in the case is basically using proprietary connectors... I'm still far more interested in next threadripper or a sweet spot 16core rzyen 3

    The screen looks fairly nice (well minus the case), but 30inch is too big for me personally, but I'm sure there will be other options out at some point because it seems to be the only one at those specs from a quick google.
    You are definitely not the target market for these products, for professional video editing markets this is pretty good, this market is not interests in DIY and pays for serviceability, support contracts, OSX video editing software, the XDR monitor in particular is excellent value compared to the the pro spec video production monitors that costs tens of thousands of dollars.

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Mmmmm Shiny!


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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Quote Originally Posted by Kato-2 View Post
    You are definitely not the target market for these products, for professional video editing markets this is pretty good, this market is not interests in DIY and pays for serviceability
    That's the problem, they've limited their target market for what is essentially a workstation computer, down to pretty much only video editors. You don't have to sacrifice standards-based modularisation for support and serviceability. That only significantly narrows your support and service options. We know that this will be trash can 2.0, it'll hardly shift any units, and again they wont bother offering the upgrades for the proprietary junk because there'll be no money in it. It'll just sit on the Apple store for 4-5 years trying to peddle the same crap launch day specs at launch day prices.
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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    That's the problem, they've limited their target market for what is essentially a workstation computer, down to pretty much only video editors. You don't have to sacrifice standards-based modularisation for support and serviceability. That only significantly narrows your support and service options. We know that this will be trash can 2.0, it'll hardly shift any units, and again they wont bother offering the upgrades for the proprietary junk because there'll be no money in it. It'll just sit on the Apple store for 4-5 years trying to peddle the same crap launch day specs at launch day prices.
    Wot he said X 2

    I guess they want the rest of the workstation market to use iMac Pro's, which aint really what they want or need I'd guess.

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Quote Originally Posted by Kato-2 View Post
    You are definitely not the target market for these products, for professional video editing markets this is pretty good, this market is not interests in DIY and pays for serviceability, support contracts, OSX video editing software, the XDR monitor in particular is excellent value compared to the the pro spec video production monitors that costs tens of thousands of dollars.
    Before trying to make sweeping assumptions and trying to 'protect' Apple you might want to realise that not all people on this forum just like computers and use them to play games....

    Actually I AM in the target market... I do 3D design which is one of the things they mention (maya) on their own site, then there is video editing of any animations and photoshop for post processing of still images... another 2 items they mention in their promotional blurb.... in essence I'm actually one of the few people on this forum who would actually be able to fully make use of the hardware on a daily basis.

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Quote Originally Posted by blokeinkent View Post
    Cheese grater anyone?

    Indeed my first thought was "do you get the cheese grater for free"

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    Re: Apple unveils the all-new Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    $1,000 for a monitor stand is peak Apple.
    But it's an Apple "pro" stand
    Old puter - still good enuff till I save some pennies!

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