AMD X570 chipset motherboards begin to reach retailers

[HEXUS]

Asus, Gigabyte and MSI X570 boards ranging from £180 to £725 are available today.

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[Hoonigan]

Why no love for ASRock? They're providing the cheapest X570 options at the moment.

[iworrall]

Why no love for ASRock? They're providing the cheapest X570 options at the moment.

And the ONLY X570 mATX board!

[stevie lee]

just a thought; will current x3 m2 cards work any faster in a x4 slot?

you tested the new Navi in pci-e 4 and it barely made any difference, just wondering if the m2 will barely do any difference either.

[iworrall]

just a thought; will current x3 m2 cards work any faster in a x4 slot?

you tested the new Navi in pci-e 4 and it barely made any difference, just wondering if the m2 will barely do any difference either.

m.2 SSDs are the first PCIe4 cards to appear. Theoretically, a PCIe3 SSD would only require half the lanes of the same sized PCIe4 slot.

Looking forward to upgrading, as I have a PCIe3 x4 Optane SSD in a PCIe2 x4 slot on my current system.

[Corky34]

just a thought; will current x3 m2 cards work any faster in a x4 slot?

Not 100% sure but i don't think they would, 4x PCIe 3.0 lanes have a theoretical bandwidth of around 4GB/s and i think the fastest NVME drive (970 Pro?) tops-out around 3.5GB/s.

[maxp779]

Dat chipset fan tho.... ;(

[Iota]

Not 100% sure but i don't think they would, 4x PCIe 3.0 lanes have a theoretical bandwidth of around 4GB/s and i think the fastest NVME drive (970 Pro?) tops-out around 3.5GB/s.

Both Corsair and Gigabyte (iirc) both announced PCIe 4.0 compatible NVMe drives when the X570 chipset was announced.

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-...250mb-s-write6 4950 / 4250 MBs read / write speed.
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/1tb-...-750k-700k-iop 5000 / 4400 MBs read / write speed.

[LSG501]

Dat chipset fan tho.... ;(

Same, I'd prefer it passively cooled, luckily at least one company has a passive version that it's shown off...Gigabyte has shown the X570 Aorus Xtreme, the problem is that based on current pricing that's more than likely to be close to that ludicrously expensive £777 MSI model...

No idea why motherboards are so expensive these days, apart from adding all the extra 'shiny bits' and a few new updates to existing tech they haven't really changed enough to warrant the increased costs imo.

edit: Just had a thought, aren't all those shields over the m2 ssd slots going to cause issues with the new pcie4 ssd's that come with their own heatsinks and need airflow.... some, such as the asrock use the same cover as the one that goes over the fan, so we can't even run without it.

[lodore]

I am confused by the networking options. single or dual 1g (one intel and one realtek) 1x 1g and 1x 2.5 or 5g. the final option seems to be 1 x 1g 1x 2.5g and an addin card for 10g.
Why do all the boards over a certain price all have wifi? I would rather have no wifi and a single 10g port. it would save some cost and be good for future proofing
On a mainstream platform I can't see many people taking advantage of multiple network ports.
Multiple network ports will be a good option for virtualization especially if you opt for the 12 core 24 thread processor.

[Neostar]

I think I'm going to wait until the black friday sales later in the year before upgrading

[3dcandy]

Same, I'd prefer it passively cooled, luckily at least one company has a passive version that it's shown off...Gigabyte has shown the X570 Aorus Xtreme, the problem is that based on current pricing that's more than likely to be close to that ludicrously expensive £777 MSI model...

No idea why motherboards are so expensive these days, apart from adding all the extra 'shiny bits' and a few new updates to existing tech they haven't really changed enough to warrant the increased costs imo.

edit: Just had a thought, aren't all those shields over the m2 ssd slots going to cause issues with the new pcie4 ssd's that come with their own heatsinks and need airflow.... some, such as the asrock use the same cover as the one that goes over the fan, so we can't even run without it.

Passive cooled is an option - but in testing you will get throttling of certain high bandwidth devices quickly. Remember pcie4 is DOUBLE the bandwidth of gen3. Yup there are few things out in the wild that take advantage of the bandwidth but they will start to appear. For example ssd's are available with 5 gig transfer rates now. For many people X570 isn't a necessity at all. But as a forward thinking high end chipset it is an excellent base for a really good system. Imagine that you can quite cheaply buy an 8c16t processor and some really fast ram and storage for prices that only a couple of years ago would have been prohibitive

[LSG501]

Passive cooled is an option - but in testing you will get throttling of certain high bandwidth devices quickly. Remember pcie4 is DOUBLE the bandwidth of gen3. Yup there are few things out in the wild that take advantage of the bandwidth but they will start to appear. For example ssd's are available with 5 gig transfer rates now. For many people X570 isn't a necessity at all. But as a forward thinking high end chipset it is an excellent base for a really good system. Imagine that you can quite cheaply buy an 8c16t processor and some really fast ram and storage for prices that only a couple of years ago would have been prohibitive

Passive is ALWAYS possible, it's how big the heatsink needs to be and if it's capable of dissipating the heat in the space it's given is the issue... just look at the next mac pro, technically they're passively cooled as they don't have their own fan and rely on the case fans, which is basically how most current motherboard chipsets are cooled.

The thing is if I'm buying a new pc (and in my case I would be changing to amd from intel) I would be looking at 'future proofing' so I get as much life out of it as possible so at the moment at least that means x570. I do 3D etc so obviously I'd be picking the 16c/32t cpu

As I like to make 'upgrades' when I upgrade I'd also be going pcie4 m2 ssd's for the os and scratch disk as that seems like a natural progression from sata ssd's, cost allowing pcie4 seems the more obvious option and as you say they have more performance and as such run hotter so that's why I'm 'concerned' over the shields (which weren't that good on pcie3 ssds) on the m2 slots. The shield would block cooling to the ssd passive coolers, so I'm curious as to why some brands have made them so you can't even run without the shields... It's not like your average user is going to remove the standard ssd cooler for the motherboard one when it would in most cases void your warranty.

[mtyson]

A nice shot of Gigabyte's mini ITX board:

[Corky34]

Shouldn't you be testing that or something instead of painting your nails.

[3dcandy]

Shouldn't you be testing that or something instead of painting your nails.

How dare you bring sexuality into the argument...
I thought the nails were on point....