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    It's getting silly now!

    The rumours were true, Samsung have released a 6.3" MEGAPhone.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22107787

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Well its nothing new, here is my latest model :-

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    Re: It's getting silly now!



    It really is getting silly

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Not seen the Galaxy Note 8.0 yet have you ?

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaz0r18 View Post
    Not seen the Galaxy Note 8.0 yet have you ?
    Well at least they sell that as a tablet than can also make calls and not a phone thats just bloody massive... i appreciate the difference is mainly semantics

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    Well at least they sell that as a tablet than can also make calls and not a phone thats just bloody massive... i appreciate the difference is mainly semantics
    They might sell it as a tablet with a phone but naming it part of the Note range just makes it sound like the next biggest phone that should've been a tablet.

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    It's still smaller than my regular landline phone and still fits in my pocket, I'm not sure what the problem is.

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Willzzz View Post
    It's still smaller than my regular landline phone and still fits in my pocket, I'm not sure what the problem is.
    Probably that your landline is never advertised as a MOBILE phone. Yet you're expected to carry around your mobile everywhere...

    I like big screens but 4.5" - 5" is really the sweet spot for a phone...

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Phaz0r18 View Post
    Probably that your landline is never advertised as a MOBILE phone. Yet you're expected to carry around your mobile everywhere...

    I like big screens but 4.5" - 5" is really the sweet spot for a phone...
    Yeah, when I first saw I think it was a Galaxy Note/Note 2 on the tube, I thought that phone is just too ridiculously big for me. However, once I got a 4.5" phone, I can never go back to my old 3.7"

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    I don't see what the problem is. If it is too big for you, don't buy it. If people don't buy them, they won't make them. If people end up looking stupid using them, that's their own look out.

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Funkstar View Post
    I don't see what the problem is. If it is too big for you, don't buy it. If people don't buy them, they won't make them. If people end up looking stupid using them, that's their own look out.
    People will buy it though, the problem is that high end phones are no longer being made in a convenient form factor those those who like smaller 4.2-4.6" screens so we are forced to buy massive phones and look stupid.

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    People will buy it though, the problem is that high end phones are no longer being made in a convenient form factor those those who like smaller 4.2-4.6" screens so we are forced to buy massive phones and look stupid.
    You're not forced to buy anything. The last time I checked, Samsung still sell smaller form factor devices. So if this isn't convenient for you, don't buy it!

    Some people appreciate a larger phone; they are better for watching movies, useful in business when taking notes... all sorts of reasons. Just because Sammy have addressed one small market segment doesn't mean that there aren't alternatives!

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by ajones View Post
    You're not forced to buy anything. The last time I checked, Samsung still sell smaller form factor devices. So if this isn't convenient for you, don't buy it!

    Some people appreciate a larger phone; they are better for watching movies, useful in business when taking notes... all sorts of reasons. Just because Sammy have addressed one small market segment doesn't mean that there aren't alternatives!
    You're forced to buy it if you want good performance or an assurance it will be updated! Smaller size is becoming more and more synonymous with lower spec. I (and im certainly not alone in this) want a sensible size phone that i can use with one hand but has a decent resolution and fairly high spec CPU. As far as i can tell there is a pretty sweet gap in the market for this kind of device.

    Of course i could buy nothing, but in reality i will probably end up compromising and getting a stupid sized phone.

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit View Post
    You're forced to buy it if you want good performance or an assurance it will be updated! Smaller size is becoming more and more synonymous with lower spec. I (and im certainly not alone in this) want a sensible size phone that i can use with one hand but has a decent resolution and fairly high spec CPU. As far as i can tell there is a pretty sweet gap in the market for this kind of device.

    Of course i could buy nothing, but in reality i will probably end up compromising and getting a stupid sized phone.
    Sorry, I disagree. If you want a smaller phone then there are products with decent performance to buy. It's true that smaller phones tend to have a lower spec, but it's a smaller phone... you can't fit all the bells'n'whistles into it.

    1) Device vendors will only provide a long upgrade cycle if the product sells well. Generally, if a product bombs in the market place it will received a single update or any contractual upgrade that they've agreed with the carrier / retail outlet. Or you jail break / root/reflash with generic software. This is nothing new and fit in with the generla refresh of devices inline with carrier contract arrangements.
    2) The Sammy S3 mini is a cracking phone. It doesn't have a mega spec CPU, but then it doesn't need one in order to work well enough in the form factor it is. There are plenty of other examples of devices that are small form factor with decent processors.

    Apple aside (until they release their new range), device manufacturers will only make phones that they believe will sell, or with a business case to justify lower sales in order to meet a particular market. If the market doesn't consider mid-sized devices with high powered CPUs attractive, then it's not the vendors fault for not releasing devices.

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    Quote Originally Posted by ajones View Post
    Sorry, I disagree. If you want a smaller phone then there are products with decent performance to buy. It's true that smaller phones tend to have a lower spec, but it's a smaller phone... you can't fit all the bells'n'whistles into it.
    Im not asking for the top dog, im asking for good enough and none of them at the moment combine a decent resolution with a decent spec... i want one so trust me i have looked. Apple have almost managed to get size and spec right. I would say a little bigger and 720p, job done.... if it wasn't for iOS.
    Sony seem to be pretty close aswell, so im keeping my eye on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by ajones View Post
    1) Device vendors will only provide a long upgrade cycle if the product sells well. Generally, if a product bombs in the market place it will received a single update or any contractual upgrade that they've agreed with the carrier / retail outlet. Or you jail break / root/reflash with generic software. This is nothing new and fit in with the generla refresh of devices inline with carrier contract arrangements.
    2) The Sammy S3 mini is a cracking phone. It doesn't have a mega spec CPU, but then it doesn't need one in order to work well enough in the form factor it is. There are plenty of other examples of devices that are small form factor with decent processors.
    But the iPhone 5 hasnt bombed, it still sells well therefore its a form factor that people still want, perhaps that's just because its apple? None of the other manufacturers have really tried pushing a slightly smaller size as a flagship or close to flaghip so how would they know? Go onto the Engadget comments on big phones and see how many people are saying that they want a decent 4.2(ish) sized phone.
    The S3 mini is a decent handset, but its not quite there.
    Quote Originally Posted by ajones View Post
    Apple aside (until they release their new range), device manufacturers will only make phones that they believe will sell, or with a business case to justify lower sales in order to meet a particular market. If the market doesn't consider mid-sized devices with high powered CPUs attractive, then it's not the vendors fault for not releasing devices.
    Why are we setting apple aside? They have a pretty hefty market share, you cant set aside the company that proves my point just so you're right.

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    Re: It's getting silly now!

    I'd agree with Biscuit. I've currently got a Sensation, and that's big enough for me. But it's blimmin' slow. If they did an HTC One-4 at the same size, I'd snap it up. As it is, to get a decent spec (720p, decent RAM, fast chip), I have to go 4.7" or higher. Are the latest ARM chips any bigger than the dual-core I've got in the Sensation?

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