Apple iPhone 14

[Jonj1611]

Doesn't seem to be loads different from last years model, some standard upgrades but again nothing jaw dropping

https://www.apple.com/uk/iphone-14/

[kalniel]

Indeed - think they have been affected by chip production and tech not getting to where they wanted it (huge cutout in the pro when I bet they were hoping for better behind display functionality - so they've had to market around it with the 'dynamic island' )

[[GSV]Trig]

Standard Apple though yes?

They never drop the best they can make, instead its all small incremental evolutions of what came before..

I was hoping for an iPad update, the Mini5 is a bit small now on flights with my eyes getting worse as I age, looks like I might be getting an Air 5 if there's nothing else coming out before Christmas..

[kalniel]

Standard Apple though yes?

They never drop the best they can make, instead its all small incremental evolutions of what came before..

I was hoping for an iPad update, the Mini5 is a bit small now on flights with my eyes getting worse as I age, looks like I might be getting an Air 5 if there's nothing else coming out before Christmas..

I was also looking at similar (and a new phone, so fairly topical) - I think I read there might be an update later in the year but it's only going to be minor, and probably just the pro.

[AGTDenton]

I think this highlights the need for biennial or 18 month releases for mobiles, it's a waste of time releasing yearly now.

I've had mine since 2018 and still see no reason to upgrade, a OnePlus 6 with 8GB RAM & 256GB storage.
Great investment thus far, first phone I've ever had that feels as fast as it did when I bought it.

My only gripe is the battery is starting to discharge faster.

[[GSV]Trig]

I think this highlights the need for biennial or 18 month releases for mobiles.

Before I had my iPhone 12, I had an iPhone 6S, so upgrades for me come when they actually need to rather than buying the latest evolution...

[DanceswithUnix]

My only gripe is the battery is starting to discharge faster.

It's interesting that electric cars are supposed to have batteries that last 10 years. People don't believe that because they are used to phones batteries conking out after 2 or 3. I know cars have a fair bit of spare capacity, but I still don't get why phone cells just don't last.

That's a decent age for a phone though. My Moto G5 lasted from 2017 to the same month in 2021, with a replacement battery in 2019. It got replaced when I was staring at an incoming call but the phone was lagging so badly that no amount of swiping would answer it! I put that down to the 3GB of ram, and bought a new phone with twice that.

[kalniel]

I still get over 24hrs out of my Samsung S8 between charges - five years on (and with a feature Apple just marketed this time -always on display ). It's reduced in life a bit, but not tons. I rarely leave it plugged in at 100% though, and often stop it in the 90s. With decent charge management and some over-provisioning 10 years ought to be OK (phones now do charge management routinely, not aware of any over-provisioning though.)

[foolishlywise]

It's interesting that electric cars are supposed to have batteries that last 10 years. People don't believe that because they are used to phones batteries conking out after 2 or 3. I know cars have a fair bit of spare capacity, but I still don't get why phone cells just don't last.

That's a decent age for a phone though. My Moto G5 lasted from 2017 to the same month in 2021, with a replacement battery in 2019. It got replaced when I was staring at an incoming call but the phone was lagging so badly that no amount of swiping would answer it! I put that down to the 3GB of ram, and bought a new phone with twice that.

On phone batteries, it may be the way they're made? There's videos on YouTube disassembling a battery (don't do this yourself, its a recipe for disaster) whereby it's thin layers of the lithium stuff with seperator media (no idea what the technical term is). Maybe because of the shape/way its bound together/amount of stuff you can get into a flat battery, it shortens its life?

[Hoonigan]

Doesn't seem to be loads different from last years model, some standard upgrades but again nothing jaw dropping

https://www.apple.com/uk/iphone-14/

After seeing the Dynamic Island, Always-On Display and the new camera system, I've decided I want to upgrade. Ordered the 128GB iPhone 14 Pro.
I know we aren't getting the Satellite SOS feature in the UK but that is pretty bloody awesome as well.

[Jonj1611]

The dynamic island is pretty cool.

[Hoonigan]

but I still don't get why phone cells just don't last.

Is it anything to do with the fact that you buy your phone, turn it on, then you very very rarely ever turn it off again, usually just for a restart to install an update?

[Jonj1611]

The new iPhones don't turn off even if you turn them off they still can be found with Find my phone etc so are never really shut down. A bit like fast boot I guess

[kalniel]

The dynamic island is pretty cool.

It's trying to spin around what is a massive dead area - they could have done dynamic notifications from the top of the screen at any time. Kudos to the marketeers, but I'm not impressed - not least because it's going to encourage people to touch around the area of the camera a lot.

[DanceswithUnix]

Is it anything to do with the fact that you buy your phone, turn it on, then you very very rarely ever turn it off again, usually just for a restart to install an update?

Electric cars are much the same tbh. A Tesla is even supposed to be able to drive itself out of the garage and warm itself up for you in the morning.

It might be because phones sometimes get quite hot. I use my phone for navigation, and on a long journey it might have the charging cable plugged in generating heat, running Waze which generates heat on the dashboard which on a summers day is a hot place.

Car battery packs OTOH have active liquid cooling.

Perhaps car batteries don't top off to 100%. The devices I've come across that have a fire hazard bulging battery have tended to spend a lot of time on charge so the battery doesn't really get used, but that's an extreme.

Dunno, just throwing out guesses

My recent phones have had quite large battery capacities, and those have lasted better. I only charge it every other day.

[Saracen999]

Electric cars are much the same tbh. A Tesla is even supposed to be able to drive itself out of the garage and warm itself up for you in the morning.

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I can't see things like that without thinking of the old satiric view of a "smart" missile. It's launched from a remote carrier, flies undetected for 1000 miles to it's target, finds an open window and enters the building, goes down the corridor, 90 degrees left and into the intended target's office - whereupon it goes straight past, out the window and blows up in the car park.

As for Apple (or any high end phone) I'm in the "meh" camp. I have a mid-range Samsung A-series and even that is, in all honesty, way overkill for my needs. I needed a phone to set up some Echo devices (not a mistake I would make again), for emergency use (pretty much anything would do and no, I don't need satellite capability), to act as a controller for my DJI drone, to play a bit of music on head/ear phones, and to talk to a handful of family/friends on Signal. A decent size screed helps a lot with the DJI but beyond that, probabky a basic £100 phone would do all I need and more.

Yeah, I know I'm an edge case and lots of people rely on phones, even high end ones, and I'm not knocking that. But my trend is to less smartphone use, not more. So .... not for me. Which is a good job as there's plenty of other tech stuff that does appeal.