As per the thread title, can anyone recommend an F1 racing game or similation title? Done a bit of web research and it seems everything available is pretty old, I suppose I might be looking at a modification for an older game. I have a fair few racing titles and am not adverse to buying at older one for sake of being able to use a decent mod.
GTR Evolution
You could try volvos racing game, not sure how sim like it is mind you though its touted as one.
http://www.volvocars.com/intl/All-Ca...60concept.aspx download link is at the top right once its loaded.
Seconded, there's a link to the F1 mod in the GTR Evolution thread somewhere in this forum. Haven't tried the F1 mod but it's a great driving sim as standard.Originally Posted by Terbinator
Also, Codemasters bought the rights to produce an official F1 game, but it's still in production, not sure on when they're planning to have it released.
I don't mean to sound cold, or cruel, or vicious, but I am so that's the way it comes out.
If its just F1 you want then there's only 1 option. Rfactor. The F1 mod for GTR evloution for 2009 has it's issues and although good fun the download link appears to have vanished from no grip racing site. And the F1 05 and 06mods arn't as good.
On rfactor there are F1 mods for so many years. Best ones have to be the FSONE 2008 mod and the 1979 mod.
It's a fairly old game but good as it can be found very cheap, then you just join here http://www.rfactorcentral.com/ and download what you want.
My recommendations though
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail...7;202007%20MMG
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail...D=FSONE%202008
http://www.rfactorcentral.com/detail...%20Prix%201979
But there are probably 20 F1 mods plus just about every year not yet covered in the work in progress section (WIPS on the site)
I'm looking foward to the ariel atom mod though
Has to be said though i do find GTR evolution a better racing game but just not much in the way of F1 but some great F3000's with downloadable custom F1 team skins.
Some screens.
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ots/79grid.jpg
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/Alonso-1.jpg
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http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/d...ts/Mansell.jpg
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Last edited by Andy3536; 08-07-2009 at 06:14 PM.
Emirzan (11-07-2009)
I've tried both rFacotr and GTR-Evo. Seriously GTR is a lot better gameplay wise and thats what these sims are about.
I would totally agree with that, GTR Evo is a better racing game. But the OP asked for F1. The F1 content for Rfactor is better in both playability and number of mods. It's not a slight on GTR evo as there all user made mods.
I have tried the FSone mod for rF it was pretty good, he also does say or not it has to be an F1 game
Oh, yeahI have tried the FSone mod for rF it was pretty good, he also does say or not it has to be an F1 game
Well, we'll see what OP says. But the WTCC racing in GTR/race 07 is unbeatable.
Found a download for the F1 09 for GTR evo. V1.32b. If anyones interested.
http://www.hsw.hu/index.php?headlinesid=13832&lm=800
Grand Prix Legends. By miles and miles. Unless you want something based in the past decade... which will be worse, by those miles, but there's little alternative. Grand Prix 4 (modded up to 2008 or 2009) is still the best F1 sim (if you disable the driving aids), but it's easier/faster to get into the one of the rFactor mods, but I can't help you there as I generally don't like rFactor... frankly it's rubbish compared to some of the older sims and iRacing... it is graphically pleasing though and does open up a lot of mods, though there are only a handful of decent ones.
Speaking of iRacing, they have a Lotus 79 coming up soon too. Legendary car, and a more accurate depiction of it you will not find. iRacing is the crème de la crème of motorsport sims. It's in a different league to everything before it, and frankly after it, possibly save NASCAR Racing 2003, but your wallet suffers for that.
Emirzan (11-07-2009)
That's a bit harsh on the modders for Rfactor, not the game itself though as that lacks content and is pretty rubbish, but there are probably a dozen decent F1 mods with countless more as works in progress. As well smaller formulas for open wheeled cars like the GP2, there are more than a few decent mods to give an amazing variaty of good racing.
rFactor is pretty rubbish compared to other sims. Some of the mods themselves are fine, but they're still limited by a physics platform which still has its roots buried in 1999.
On a basic level rFactor is good... but it's diluted compared to some other sims. iRacing is about 10 times better, but it isn't for the casual sim racer, which is where rFactor is generally aimed at. Don't get me wrong - it's not some arcade racer masquerading as a sim like RACE or the old CMR titles.
The main problem with rFactor is that for every good mod, there are 20 awful ones... and the online servers are clogged with people racing the rubbish ones, while the decent mods (like the 1979 F1 one) are fairly unpopular.
How did you manage to break my quote that badly?
Even if there were 20 awfull mods for every good one(there arn't of corse it's a massive over exageration), there'd still be more than enough to choose from as there's just loads.rFactor is pretty rubbish compared to other sims. Some of the mods themselves are fine, but they're still limited by a physics platform which still has its roots buried in 1999.
On a basic level rFactor is good... but it's diluted compared to some other sims. iRacing is about 10 times better, but it isn't for the casual sim racer, which is where rFactor is generally aimed at. Don't get me wrong - it's not some arcade racer masquerading as a sim like RACE or the old CMR titles.
The main problem with rFactor is that for every good mod, there are 20 awful ones... and the online servers are clogged with people racing the rubbish ones, while the decent mods (like the 1979 F1 one) are fairly unpopular.
How did you manage to break my quote that badly?
The idea that the rfactor physics engine is poor just isn't the case, it's really very good and that's why it's still one of the most popular race sims out there despite it's age.
Most of your arguments are absolutly true when talking about rfactor out of the box, and mabee the mods that are there now wern't when you tried it?
As for the idea that Race is an arcade game masquerading as a sim, you should truely be ashamed of yourself, it's nearly blasphemy.
Are you seriously sugesting that Race/07, GTR Evo and GTR 2 the most popular sims on the market are 'arcade' You should truely be asamed of yourself
Maybe a slight exaggeration, but there are only a handful of really good mods, a few more decent ones, and then most of the rest are unfinished or just taking bits from other mods and mish-mashing them together - often without the permission of the original author.
The Megane mod is a prime example. It's ludicrously popular, but completely unrealistic. The physics were written by a guy who has driven the racing car... not by someone who understands the physics model. As a result the tyre model is appalling. What they should have done is had the driver giving opinions and helping people who do know what they are doing.
That's the direction CART Factor was going, with input from the likes of Dario Franchitti and Chip Ganassi, and it was promising to be the best mod by far, but the community just didn't want it. It was too realistic. Too difficult. After the demo the modding crew just stopped working on it.
The only good sim that has a worse physics model is GPL, the engine for which was written earlier than the rFactor one. That rFactor one still has that same base, now 10 year old, with only a few updates as they released new or updated sims (as ISI). If you drove F1 2000, 2001, 2002 or F1 Challenge you'll instantly recognise the physics engine - more toned down of course - but you'll still recognise it. It still has the same traits now.
It's not about the mods - of course they're all limited by the gMotor2 engine - it's the platform on which they're built.
Have you even tried iRacing, NR2003 or GPL?As for the idea that Race is an arcade game masquerading as a sim, you should truely be ashamed of yourself, it's nearly blasphemy.
Are you seriously sugesting that Race/07, GTR Evo and GTR 2 the most popular sims on the market are 'arcade' You should truely be asamed of yourself
The original GTR was pretty good (but had some massive flaws) and most of GTR2 was good too, but it was still half sim, half fun. The people who made those games (largely in the case of GTR2, as they left near the end of the project) had no input on RACE or GTR Evo. Fun? Yeah. Hardcore sim they certainly aren't... maybe a softcore sim, like racing GP2, GP3 or GP4 is when racing with most of the driving aids on.
Popular has nothing to do with it. The most realistic race sims generally aren't popular. One of the best (for it's age), GPL, flopped as most just found it too difficult. iRacing is used by professional drivers (Justin Wilson, Dale Earnhardt Jnr, Jacques Villeneuve to name some of the more recognisable figures) use it as a tool to learn new cars and tracks, racing against the likes of you and I. Dale Jnr is addicted to it, having racked up nearly 400 races.
IRacing looks pretty fun but you can think again if you think i'm paying a monthly subsciption for 13 carsit's also got the issue of being very much American dominated which means half of the content is American muscle and stock car and very limited actual sports car or single seat. I'm not going to deny it's going to have the best physics engine as it's the newest developed and is difficult to compare with other games due to thier monthly subscription meaning they have more money and continual development that other racing games are never going to compete with.
GPL i had many moons ago and was an excellent game but sold it some time ago, it was never going to get a look in after i bought race 07. (i did play it to death though)
As for NR2003? That's a Nascar game right??? I thought we were talking racing games
But to try and deny that the game engine for the simbin titles and rfactor are anything other than very good is just plain wrong. There is nothing that doesn't require subscription that can match simbins games and rfactor is easily the next on the list. There is simply no racing sim that can compare without subscription
With all the Driving aids off the simbin titles are anything but 'arcadey'
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