Woes with the E4300 and FP-IN9..

[PhobosMoon]

Well the title says it all basically I have been going from one bios to the next, the only one that has shown promise is the 1.3 beta bios.. Basically as it stands I have been getting unusaul performance with overclocking..

Basically I put my clock to 2.45ghz from the stock 1.8ghz.. I am using the Thermaltake Minityphoon with two mini fans connected to it.. I am also using the Antec case which has 4 80mm fan and a huge fan on top.. So my air current should be good.. My northbridge keeps cool to the touch..

Anyways what I have been doing is unlinking the two.. overclocking the processor to 2.45ghz.. and I have kept my Crucial Ballistix 2gb DDR2 PC6400 at its stock 800mhz speed on the board.. I have also put the voltage up to 2.2 volt from the stock, because thats the default voltage that was recommended..

Other than the fact that any other higher bios adds even more 10 more temp or more which doesn't seem realistic.. But with in the 1.3 beta bios things have been running smooth except during this morning right after windows loaded up I get a blue screen of death.. The timings of ram are also at 4-4-4-12-2t.. I have done prime95 a few times for spurts of 1 to 3 hours.. No errors or warnings.. Every other voltage is stock.. The point being is from my understanding I should be having no problems what so ever with the 2.45 ghz overclock and stock ram settings with the E4300.. I have heard people getting 3.0ghz overclocks with this card on stock voltages.. Which with bios 1.3 its 1.325 bolt mainly due to the fact that with that specific bios when you overclock the EISE disables so it never lowers voltage or what not.. My goal was able to get it to at least 2.7ghz and possibly 3.0ghz especially when I just ordered a Radeon 4850 card.. I really could use help experts of thy abit motherboards.. help please.

[jclafi]

Use BIOS 14 to overclok anyone C2D 65nm. Do the BIOS Downgrade in DOS mode if you use BIOS 15 or above, and after the BIOS Update make a full clear cmos.

After you did that, we can be sure that the motherboard is ready to over your E4300.

I´m wainting for your to finnish this first procedure. After this, we can start to make some tests.

To be continued....

[PhobosMoon]

Before I do this could you tell me why the tempature past 1.3 bios suddenly takes like a 10 degree leap of temps that were displayed 1.3.. I am thinking the 1.3 bios are actually more accurate, by using Realtemp the actual cores seem far more realistic keeping a 5 degree delta between the tcase and tcore.. I just did a temperature stress test with a 2.45ghz processing the highest it got was 50 degrees celcious tcase and 55 degrees core.. That was at the most brutal Prime95 for maximum heat increase.

Also do you have a steam account or something where we could directly talk instead of forum posts?

[PhobosMoon]

Ok I tried the 1.4 bios.. Went to a bus speed of 333mhz.. Right now its just doing a sensor test for Real temp.. I moved the voltage up on my cpu core to around 1.35-1.38.. Ram is unlinked and at 800.. When my cpu is at 3.0ghz.. What concerns me is the temp.. Real Temp when I have the Tjunction at 85 which is what I believe the E4300 L2 is.. Is substantially lower the highest being like 56 cel, while the AbitEQ and the bios is giving me idles of low 40s high 30's and temps reaching into 61 degrees.. This is pretty wierd sense 1.3 bios the temps seem far more realistic, and actually were alot closer delta with it when I used real temp.. I REALLY need some help is there any way I can talk to some one maybe in Steam or something direct.. These forum postings always take forever alot of times.

[jclafi]

Actuually i believe that BIOS13 do NOT have support do FSB@1333 CPU´s, only 1066FSB ones. Less juice on the N.B so...
I guess that with BIOS14 the temps goes up because of the native support of 1333CPU´s. 650i need power to archieve HIGHER clocks.



What´s your CPU Steping? Maybe it´s not supported by BIOS14. Whe need to check this. Anyway if the CPU satys below 70°C in the ORTHOS Small FTTS test is nice. My CPU beats 71°C (coretemp) when using Intel Burn In Test.

See ya

Before I do this could you tell me why the tempature past 1.3 bios suddenly takes like a 10 degree leap of temps that were displayed 1.3.. I am thinking the 1.3 bios are actually more accurate, by using Realtemp the actual cores seem far more realistic keeping a 5 degree delta between the tcase and tcore.. I just did a temperature stress test with a 2.45ghz processing the highest it got was 50 degrees celcious tcase and 55 degrees core.. That was at the most brutal Prime95 for maximum heat increase.

Also do you have a steam account or something where we could directly talk instead of forum posts?

[PhobosMoon]

Its a L2, stepping 2 E4300.. I honestly don't believe my EQabit for a second with 1.4 bios.. It idles at 35 degrees with scaling on so its only at 1.2ghz right now... And its voltage is 1.14... While after calibrating my cpu with a tjunction of 85, Real Temp is giving me a temperature of 29 degrees C, which seems about right sense I am in a well conditioned room that has to be around 20 or 21 degrees ambient.... Furthermore what voltages do you suggest I should put in my bios? The only one I know for certain is my ram which I put it at 2.2v but not sure about the rest.

Also I would like to say that the EQabit is a PoS.. My cpu fan connects through the system connector fan.. Often times for no reason the AbitEQ fan settings for system fan reverts back to defaults.. So often times if I stress test.. All of a sudden my fan will not go any higher than its defulat 50%.. Also when I overclock to the said 3.0ghz should I disable the boards auto stepping program in which it lowers clock speed and voltage when its not needed?

[jclafi]

Disable EIST and Thermal Monitor and C1E.

About the voltages i whould sitck to N.B 1.3v and CPU_VTT 1.3v. Just a small overvolt to be sure everything will be ok when needed.

Test your system, games, sintectic tests, CPU (ORTHOS SMall FTT´s 8 horus) and if everything is ok, that it.

See ya

[PhobosMoon]

Why should I disable EIST and CIE? Just curious?..

Also started doign the testing.. It seems to have capped off with more cores of 57 degrees using Real Temp 3.00 with Tjunction 85 degrees C as the limit.. People seem to think that is the closest for E4300.. But my EQabit with these new bios are reading 68 degrees... I am confused is there any one out there to tell me which temperature is the real temp? 1.3 beta bios the one I had the most success overclocking wise had temperatures that coinsided with the REal Teamp 3.00.

[jclafi]

Eist is important that you turn off because, if i remmenber right, he lower the voltage of the CPU, and we dont want this.

C1E also lower the vCORE, and the multi, looks weird but i use it, i recomnend to disable becasue not every system works well with it. Do your tests.

I also got some higher temps but i quite dont care about it. When i touch my TX2 its cool, even when the temps are about 70°C. So i dnot care about it´s cool.

Good Luck

[PhobosMoon]

Well I caved in and went back to 1.3 beta bios.. Using same settings.. 3.0ghz afterawhile my top temp after the max sterss Prime95 test is 54 by Abit EQ.. and 58 on both cores for Real Temp 3.00...

I am just worried because I remember reading back that I should not go further than really 60 tcase.. 65 tcores.. From the Toms hardware shed Core2duo temp guide.

[PhobosMoon]

Well I just randomly got a blue screen of death today with a small overclock of 1.8ghz to 2.45ghz when defragging my hard drive.. I had my voltage for core at 1.325 from auto.. Northbridge and VTT are at 1.24 volt.. ram is at 2.2 volt with 4-4-4-12 timings and at the stock 800 mhz..

[jclafi]

Quite HIGH RAM voltage you using, did you reallly need 2.2v to run DDR2-800@4-4-4-12 ?

Did you disabled C1E and EIST? Set your CPU vCORE to 1.375v and make some tests. With this amount of voltage you should run fine @2.45Ghz.

Good Luck !

[jclafi]

Quite HIGH RAM voltage you using, did you reallly need 2.2v to run DDR2-800@4-4-4-12 ?

Did you disabled C1E and EIST? Set your CPU vCORE to 1.375v and make some tests. With this amount of voltage you should run fine @2.45Ghz.

I clearly remmenber that, with one E6320 and BISO14 i hit FSB@400 solid like a rock. You should too.

Good Luck !

[jclafi]

Also, test your over with ORTHOS. If your over pass the 9 hours of Blend Mode test everything appears to be fine!

Let ORTHOS runnig at night, 9 hours blend mode to test CPU and RAM. If you whould like to test your CPU better, run the Intel Burn In Test.

If you pass 15 runs of IntelBurnIn Test everithing is fine.

Good Luck

[PhobosMoon]

Quite HIGH RAM voltage you using, did you reallly need 2.2v to run DDR2-800@4-4-4-12 ?

Did you disabled C1E and EIST? Set your CPU vCORE to 1.375v and make some tests. With this amount of voltage you should run fine @2.45Ghz.

I clearly remmenber that, with one E6320 and BISO14 i hit FSB@400 solid like a rock. You should too.

Good Luck !

Yeah I charged up my vcore to 1.35.. And 2.2v is my recommended voltage for my Crucial Ballistix ddr800 ram.. I set my vcore to 1.35 atm.. There is a bug with vcore I think seeing as it hovers at 1.32 to 1.33... I just did small fft at 2.45ghz overclock for two hours now.. No errors no warnings.. And EQ abit highest temp it read was 52.. It jumped 51 to 52 consistently.. And Tcore temp with Tjunction set at 90 degree read 56-57 tjunction for the etnire time.. I also raised my NB voltage to 1.28.. And my CPU VTT is at 1.25. Also I am still using 1.3 beta bios.. 1.4 bios for the E4300 I have huge memory holes where the only successful overclock I have gotten with it (successful by meaning that it would actually post) was 3.0 ghz overclock (333mhz FSB).

[jclafi]

You should be fine with your current settings. Anyway do some extensive stress runs to be sure that everything is ok.

About your BIOS 13, i never used this BIOS. Only BIOS14 man. If you have problems runnig any FSB between 800 and 1333, just jump direct to 1333 and lower your multiplicator, to archive a lower CPU clock.

Good Luck