when is a service not a service?

[Zak33]

thanks kal

[J4MES]

get an older Small Form Factor rig, with last generation everything (Athlon XP, nForce 2 , 1 gig DDR ram kinda thing and a big hard drive)

I still have nForce 2 stuff, and it plays games really well, at 1024x768.

You can underclock the cpu and knock the fan speeds right down and it'll be quiet.

Bet you can find a Shuttle or an X Cube or similar, all for about £100.

thanks Zak, just what I was thinking - I've seen Shuttle's kicking about mates' houses and think I might check out the 'bay for the bits I need - I fancy building one as it can't be more difficult than a timing belt of wheel bearing... can it?

how do you underclock btw?

[J4MES]

So..you pay more for a VW and get shoddier components as a result?

i don't think any components have let me down

[Funkstar]

Sorry Zak, i missed that line

[Howard]

thanks Zak, just what I was thinking - I've seen Shuttle's kicking about mates' houses and think I might check out the 'bay for the bits I need - I fancy building one as it can't be more difficult than a timing belt of wheel bearing... can it?

how do you underclock btw?

Yeah building a PC is easy

Underclocking is usually done in the bios by lowering the FSB or multiplier.. I would have thought the fan speeds would lower themselves with less load, too

[J4MES]

get an older Small Form Factor rig, with last generation everything (Athlon XP, nForce 2 , 1 gig DDR ram kinda thing and a big hard drive)

I still have nForce 2 stuff, and it plays games really well, at 1024x768.

You can underclock the cpu and knock the fan speeds right down and it'll be quiet.

Bet you can find a Shuttle or an X Cube or similar, all for about £100.

is that £100 for the case? or an old-ish school system w/o ancils?

[J4MES]

I've lost track of what cars you own.. You seem to go through more of them than I've had hot dinners.. You have a MK4 Golf and an Impreza now?

decided this Golf is a keeper..

[Zak33]

is that £100 for the case? or an old-ish school system w/o ancils?

should get most of it for that....small form factors have vid/sound etc power built in.
just need small chip and hard drive normally.

PM David...he must have something somewhere.

[Konan555]

Underclocking is usually done in the bios by lowering the FSB or multiplier.

Now hang on..... when did they unlock multiplers?

[kalniel]

They've been unlocked downwards for ages, it's the power saving mode.

[Konan555]

I don't think I'll ever break out of the 90s.

[J4MES]

Now hang on..... when did they unlock multiplers?

there's a good article in a recent Autocar about the language of petrol heads, and how unintelligible it is to outsiders...

i feel that way now, about computers...

:completely discombobulated:

how does one unlock (downwards) a multiplier while underclocking?

[Howard]

I wouldn't worry about underclocking. Set of quiet fans (and set their speed to adaptive in the BIOS) and it'll be fine

[badass]

they're bushes which age afaik...

in my experience ygwypf

I suspect the car's had a hard life if they go so early TBH.
Still, the rest certainly are consumables.

[Rave]

All Athlon XP Tbred/Barton processors prior to about week 0330 have unlocked multipliers. You don't even need to do a pencil mod or anything.

Personally I tend to undervolt more than I underclock, although my motherboard is now so flaky that at the moment I'm doing both (XP2000 at 1.47GHz, 1.4V ).

[J4MES]

Rave, you might as well be speaking swahili

that made no sense!

flaky motherboard? pencil mod?