Gas pedal/wheel bearings.....

[lynni]

Ive been having a couple of problems with my car over the weekend and the last couple of weeks.... last monday before we went to Alesbury i put it in for a service, since it hasnt had one since ive had it. My father told the guy that it was revving loaaaaaaaaaaads whenever changed gear, sounded like i wasnt taking my foot off the pedal but keepin my foot on the clutch at the same time, but at the time he couldnt find anything wrong. The drive down south and back, was really bad for my car cos it didnt shut up revving noisely the entire journey

Today i took it back to the garage where it was serviced and got him to look at it. He's said my gas pedal is sticking, but after oiling everything it was still sticking and whilst taking it out for a spin, he told me my wheel bearing was about to die sometime soon

Now should this have been picked up last week? Should i be obliged to pay full service, labour and parts? and do wheel bearings just 'go' like ive been told this afternoon?

[Rave]

I have precisely no experience with Kas (which is what I believe you have?) but on my old car the linkage connecting the gas pedal to the actual throttle in the carb was via a spring. Eventually the pivot siezed up to the point that the spring could no longer pull the throttle closed, so on my way to work one morning (running late as usual) I floored it on the M27 only to find that even hooking my foot under the pedal wouldn't stop it charging on at full throttle. A sensible person would have switched off the ignition and pulled on to the hard shoulder to await rescue, but I wasn't going to risk another telling off for lateness, so I carried on to work using the ignition switch to alternate between coasting and bursts of full throttle acceleration. That was fine on the motorway, but the roundabout inbetween the sliproad and the shop I worked at was a bit of a challenge- thank god there was only one!

Anyway, to the point: it's entirely possible that a similar thing has happened in your car. Have a look under the bonnet while you get someone to push the pedal up and down so you can see where the pivot is at the end of the throttle cable. Then see if it moves freely all the way through its range. I freed mine up in the end with some teflon bike chain oil- although at that point the car was very close to death anyway, and I just avaided flooring it from then on.

Rich :¬)

[Tumble]

I did have a look at the weekend.. the throttle linkage is exactly like that.. It does turn freely, it must just be sticking after a prolonged opening, say cruising along for half an hour or so.. it was perfectly fine just sat bashing the pedal on the drive... and curiously, if you turned the motor off, it would be fine straight away once it roared* back into life again






*"roar" may have been exaggerated for artistic purposes

[Shad]

What's a 'gas pedal'

[Tumble]

What's a 'gas pedal'

I would have thought you'd know precisely what that is.... accelerator, throttle, the gas, the loud pedal etc etc etc.

[Shad]

I would have thought you'd know precisely what that is.... accelerator, throttle, the gas, the loud pedal etc etc etc.

Yes but... nevermind

[Tumble]

yes but, a serious question... and not much knowledge of terminology does not warrant a mickey-take imo. I would expect more maturity from a mod tbh.

[TiG]

lol, there is mickey taking and there is taking a joke too seriously. I can see why he laughed its an american phrase, even Mod's are allowed a bit of fun once in a while.

TiG

[lynni]

Hey i need some help and advice, which is why ive posted this!

Are you all just gonna sit there and bitch at each other?

And yes shad, i meant accelerater.... couldnt be bothered to spell it so i said Gas kk?

[Shad]

Christ alive people... the inclusion of the ' ' and ' ' were to emphasise the light-hearted and non-serious nature of my comment.

I stand corrected though if your car runs on methane

[lynni]

Christ alive people... the inclusion of the ' ' and ' ' were to emphasise the light-hearted and non-serious nature of my comment.

I stand corrected though if your car runs on methane

ok whatever can this get back on track now? im stuck with what to do about my car

[TiG]

Lynni,

From my experience a service really is them doing the essentials, the oil, water, the filters, breaks etc. Even if you ask them to look at something they will unlikely go out of there way to find something major. If you really need your car which it sounds like you do you are just going to need to pay the cost of getting it sorted. As far as i'm aware if you've not had it serviced in a long time then its likely more things go wrong, as with any mechanical equipment, wear and tear take its toll and things can just die.

Think you are stuck with paying to get it fixed myself...

TiG

[Jiff Lemon]

Wheel bearings certainly don't just fail - they tend to go gradually. I'd certainly be asking the garage for an explanation as to why it wasn't noticed at the previous service - especially if it was only 2 weeks ago.

As for the throttle problem, you could try changing the throttle cable itself - sometimes it can fray inside the out casing, causing it to stick, however, you should notice that the actual pedal doesn't return when the engine is revving. However, I don't think it's mechanical.

From your description my first thoughts were that the clutch was slipping (lots of revs, not a lot of movement). However from tumbles description is doesn't appear to be that. I'd be tempted to give the throttle body a good clean out (tumble will understand!) with some carb cleaner, as it may be the throttle butterfly thats sticking, NOT the cable.

[Rave]

I did have a look at the weekend.. the throttle linkage is exactly like that.. It does turn freely, it must just be sticking after a prolonged opening, say cruising along for half an hour or so.. it was perfectly fine just sat bashing the pedal on the drive... and curiously, if you turned the motor off, it would be fine straight away once it roared* back into life again

Actually come to think about it, our old 2CV would stick the throttle open a bit after long journeys, we never figured out why. We just ignored it, it wasn't really a problem as we only did a few long journeys in it.

However, if the problem is cured instantly by switching the car off and on again, then that sounds to me like an electrical problem. Perhaps the ECU isn't grounded properly or something?

Rich :¬)

[Tumble]

dunno... I checked everything was plugged in, and everything appeared to be present & correct, no frayed wires or anything... but tbh, there isn't much in the way of engine management in the thing - tis a very basic motor....

[lynni]

iam told by the garage this afternoon that the wheel bearing has gone, and the sensor system that realises when you take your foot off the accelarater and dip the clutch has also died....

How much this is going to cost, i dont know cos i havent got my bill yet


Am livid that this wasnt picked up last week during the service though, and has had to go back into the garage for the second time in two weeks