Quick Quiz

[Zak33]

Right.. 3 questions, with some context/info to assist you.

New Car Registrations in the UK

July 2013:

Ford 25,597
Vauxhall 18,165
VW 14,029
BMW 8,390
Bentley 131


Question 1: How many cars did Subaru register in the same month, here in the UK?
Question 2: How many cars did Porsche register in the same month, here in the UK?
Question 3: Did Audi beat BMW in the same month, here in the UK?

[Saracen]

1. No idea.
2. Even less idea. But fewer. Probably.
3. Probably.


I'm 100% sure I'm right on one of these.

[Zak33]

I will await other replies

[kalniel]

Hmm, off-top-of-head and no googling any other help:

1) ~500
2) ~7k
3) Yes.

[ConnorLowe]

Question 1: How many cars did Subaru register in the same month, here in the UK? 450
Question 2: How many cars did Porsche register in the same month, here in the UK? 700
Question 3: Did Audi beat BMW in the same month, here in the UK? Nope

I've not Google'd anything, just a guess!

[stevie lee]

subaru - 5
Porsche - 60
audi beat BMW - yup, around 11,000

[Zak33]

OK answers:

Subaru Registrations in July 2013 -- 87
Porsche Registrations in July 2013 --- 731

And yes Audi beat BWW... registrations 10,761

Subaru are having a total mare this year.

1187 total registrations in 2013 Jan to July

Porsche by comparison are at 4,632 same period

[kalniel]

Interesting.

Well what have Subaru brought out recently in the UK of interest? SUV? People carrier? City car? Executive range?

Porsche are selling Cayenne's by the (relative) bucket load I expect. Audi have a better SUV and city car range than BMW (unless BMW includes mini?)

[stevie lee]

I guessed the way I did, because more car accidents around these parts are caused by BMWs than any other (from the news stories ive read anyhow) so I think everyone else reading them think they're unsafe cars and/or for people with tiny man parts to show off.
and from the news about the snow blizzards in winter, everyone would look for 4wd, then remember audi has Quattro and buy that, plus they have the german fuel economy and meaty look aswell.

subaru - they seem to be pulling out of the UK, no more impreza, not allowed to sell that GT86 equivalent (someone on this forum mentioned that they were only allowed to sell 1 for every 100 Toyotas sold iirc) they may not be able to buy one in the first place,
so why buy something that will have no future in spare parts or factory support, if subura have no confidence in the UK that doesn't translate to the buyer having much confidence either. plus they've lost the 'look' of the car and it looks just like any other car.

Porsche - theres too many similar models to choose from, it puts people off.


as for the actual figures, I was pretty close on the audi numbers

[Zak33]

for you to all digest

2013 Jan - July New Car Reg, in order of volume

MARQUE 2013
Ford 188,993
Vauxhall 150,805
Volkswagen 115,346
Audi 84,528
BMW 73,604
Nissan 70,856
Peugeot 63,628
Mercedes-Benz 62,310
Toyota 54,003
Citroen 48,516
Hyundai 44,132
Kia 43,205
Skoda 37,306
Fiat 34,033
Honda 33,598
Land Rover 33,579
MINI 28,467
SEAT 25,681
Renault 22,354
Volvo 19,054
Suzuki 18,859
Mazda 17,838
Jaguar 9,813
Dacia 8,297
Chevrolet 7,465
Mitsubishi 5,431
Lexus 4,806
Porsche 4,632
smart 3,263
Alfa Romeo 3,163
Chrysler 1,551
Subaru 1,187
Jeep 1,091
Abarth 807
Bentley 727
Other Imports 602
Aston Martin 575
Other British 503
Ssangyong 322
Infiniti 266
Maserati 194
Perodua 165
MG 156
Lotus 122
Proton 15
Saab 3


What this means is that VW and Aidi between them... are doing a Tesco

add Seat and Skoda to that number....

and be afraid!.. and please don't expect VW and Audi residuals to stay strong.. not with that volume.

If you combine Ford and Vauxhall, frankly previously the working family cars... you get 339k
Add VW, and Audi alone and you get v close to 100k

with Skoda and Seat you're into 262k


and BMW... out registering Nissan!

[kalniel]

What this means is that VW and AUdi between them... are doing a Tesco

add Seat and Skoda to that number....

and be afraid!

Yeah but in this case it's more like Waitrose in terms of the quality of goods compared to Ford/Vaux

[Zak33]

Yeah but in this case it's more like Waitrose in terms of the quality of goods compared to Ford/Vaux

not quite that good, but I get your point.

[kalniel]

not quite that good, but I get your point.

Well Tesco aren't that bad either, Waitrose are just a little better.

We've known VW group residuals should be lower on volume for a while - I couldn't possibly have considered driving an Audi otherwise. But I like my car I do want a mazda 3 fastback next.. but without the volume I doubt the secondhand market will be cheap enough for me for a while.

[Barakka]

What this means is that VW and Aidi between them... are doing a Tesco

add Seat and Skoda to that number....

and be afraid!.. and please don't expect VW and Audi residuals to stay strong.. not with that volume.

VW are being careful about their sales too though.. a friend of mine just bought a brand new Polo (Bluemotion GT - very nice) and when he was initially looking he was told they can do a deal on the Polo or Passat, but no deals, reductions or offers on the Golf - full stop if you want it you pay the price. Not saying they wouldn't have moved a bit if pushed, but that was the initial response from all the dealers he tried (about 5).

With Audi and BMW I think they've got massively into the fleet market for middle management over the past 5 years with the A3/A4/A5 and Mini/1/3/5 respectively looking at least as attractive for Benefit in Kind as Ford and Vaux's offerings - although I bet quite a few of those Mercs registered have been fleet A Class's they're going for the A3 fleets head on with that.

...and Subaru might be doing badly here, but i'm sure they're still shifting volume in their local AUS/NZ market - you can't move for Scoobies over there.

[DanceswithUnix]

Alfa Romeo 3,163

Given they seem to have given up making cars (with only 2 models on sale atm) I am surprised that is so high!

[Butuz]

1. 2000
2. 1000
3. Yes. 10000

Butuz