Anyone got a spare £154,900?

[directhex]

In terms of looks I really like the Tesla S, actually. I was biking home last night and a vehicle transport stopped at the lights next to me with 6 of them heading for the new showroom down Stockport Road. Was tempted to see if I could give him the directions to my house and persuade him to accidentally "lose" one...

Related note: the new rules on plug-in subsidies came in on Tuesday. No more £5k subsidy on the BMW i8, Porsche Panamera S E-Hybrid, Lambo Asterion, or Mercedes S 500 e!

[scaryjim]

... I know someone on a 6 Figure salary that £155k would be life changing to. They would be ably to pay off their what's left owing on their house minus about £15k and go part time to spend more time with their family....

If they're on a six figure sum with - comparatively - that little on a mortgage (although I assume it's over a relatively short remaining period) I suspect there are ways they could do that already, if they made some lifestyle changes to reduce their expenditure.

Besides, I wouldn't count dropping some hours to spend more time with the family "life changing" (and I've done it in the past, so I speak with some experience) - life improving, certainly, but it still leaves you needing to work for someone else to pay the monthly bills. For me, genuinely life-changing sums are the ones where you can walk away from working and never have to worry about whether you can pay the utility bills and put food on the table - where your time is absolutely, literally, your own with no commitments or concerns about making ends meet.

[scaryjim]

Related note: the new rules on plug-in subsidies came in on Tuesday. No more £5k subsidy on the BMW i8, Porsche Panamera S E-Hybrid, Lambo Asterion, or Mercedes S 500 e!

According to the Tesla website they still apply to the S and the price takes that into consideration. Presumably they'll apply to the X when that comes out too (and I DO like the look of the X). OTOH, even the lowest price showroom model on the website is more than I'd spend on a car by at least an order of magnitude, so the subsidy is sadly rather moot in my case!

[badass]

If they're on a six figure sum with - comparatively - that little on a mortgage (although I assume it's over a relatively short remaining period) I suspect there are ways they could do that already, if they made some lifestyle changes to reduce their expenditure.

They would need to change their life to change their life then? Hmmm

Besides, I wouldn't count dropping some hours to spend more time with the family "life changing" (and I've done it in the past, so I speak with some experience) - life improving, certainly, but it still leaves you needing to work for someone else to pay the monthly bills. For me, genuinely life-changing sums are the ones where you can walk away from working and never have to worry about whether you can pay the utility bills and put food on the table - where your time is absolutely, literally, your own with no commitments or concerns about making ends meet.

That comes down to semantics. If you want to take the statement literally, life changing could be anything from minor changes to someone's life to a complete transformation of the rest of their days. Our thresholds are clearly different.

[Tumble]

In terms of looks I really like the Tesla S, actually. I was biking home last night and a vehicle transport stopped at the lights next to me with 6 of them heading for the new showroom down Stockport Road. Was tempted to see if I could give him the directions to my house and persuade him to accidentally "lose" one...

I followed one through Trafford Park the other day. It was so weird - looked like it should be spitting flames, moved like it had rockets up its behind and made no noise whatsoever apart from the tyres on the tarmac......

[directhex]

According to the Tesla website they still apply to the S and the price takes that into consideration. Presumably they'll apply to the X when that comes out too (and I DO like the look of the X). OTOH, even the lowest price showroom model on the website is more than I'd spend on a car by at least an order of magnitude, so the subsidy is sadly rather moot in my case!

Yeah, pure battery cars still get the full subsidy (now reduced from 5k to 4.5k). It's plug-in hybrids which have gone down to 2.5k - unless they have a list price above 60k, in which case the subsidy is 0.

[scaryjim]

They would need to change their life to change their life then? Hmmm

It's amazing how many people do...

That comes down to semantics. ... Our thresholds are clearly different.

Indeed, you said as much in your first post ("It depends on how you define life changing.") so I was providing my definition. Everyone's threshold on life-changing is different. I guess it's the distinction between making a difference in your existing life, and changing your life entirely. For me, to earn the epithet "life-changing" you need to be nearer the second definition.

FWIW, if I had the spare £154,900 now I would probably hang on to it until the Tesla X was released. I'd been considering a minibus or crew van, but a 7 seater all-electric with a 200+ mile range and good luggage space would tick a lot of boxes for me right now...

[Zak33]

thats VERY pretty