1080p devices - what are they ?

[ikonia]

so,

I've just got a nice new 1080p TV.

I've had my devices hooked up by professional AV experts.

While they where doing this I noticed that sky HD was showing 1080i, they actually advised me to changfe this to 720p because it looked better with out interlacing. (I'm currently experienting with this).
I didn't realise sky HD was unable to send out 1080p quality.

I then looked at the blue ray device the shop had leant me while waiting for my new amp, and that was knocking out 1080i and they explained that blu ray 1080p is a debatable topic at the moment if players actually do output this.

What devices can do 1080p ?

I've not tried my xbox elite yet, but I'd assume the games consoles are all 1080p (I know the titles vary from 720 to 1080).


Discuss / explain

[Funkstar]

I don't think Sky do 1080p as it would take too much bandwidth.

BluRay is certainaly capable of 1080p, but i gues that depends on what the footage on the disk is encoded at.

Upscaling/de-interlacing on both these boxes would depend on how powerful they are. I wouldn't be surprised if they have left this out of their first or even second generation products.

Given time, all mid to high end devices will be capable of 1080p as the cost of components naturally drops.

As for the consoles.... i have the foggiest about that

[TiG]

720p/1080i is what most US broadcasters send out in too, so SKY HD isn't much different from the norm there.

My Xbox registers on my screen as displaying 1080p, tho i'm a bit sceptical on that, my PC displays to the screen at 1080p too, and my upscaling dvd player also does.

PS3/Blueray does as well.

TiG

[Howard]

BluRay and HD DVD primarily, UK and US telly is 720p or 1080i generally, I'll be setting my V+ box to 720p when it arrives

[bigblue]

While they where doing this I noticed that sky HD was showing 1080i, they actually advised me to changfe this to 720p because it looked better with out interlacing. (I'm currently experienting with this)

I'm no "expert" but I believe that may well be tosh. A lot of the stuff sky broadcast was originally 1080p but it's carried as 1080i. So if you set your box to 1080i, all the TV has to do is deinterlace. If you set it to 720p the box will deinterlace and scale to 720p, then send it to the set which then has to scale to 1080p.

My TV (Sony rear-pro) definitely looks better with SkyHD outputting 1080i. Not even close.

I didn't realise sky HD was unable to send out 1080p quality.

It's not a million miles away, as your set will display it progressively. Transmitting at 1080p would take a whole lot more bandwidth for arguably not much improvement in picture quality. The bitrates Sky use have more of an impact on picture quality. Check BBC HD or Aquariavision on Sky Arts to see how good a higher bitrate feed looks.

I then looked at the blue ray device the shop had leant me while waiting for my new amp, and that was knocking out 1080i and they explained that blu ray 1080p is a debatable topic at the moment if players actually do output this.

Plenty of players are capable of outputting it. A few of the early ones will only output 1080i, and some will do 1080p but not at 24fps, causing a little judder. More recent ones will do 1080p/24, or whatever the manufacturers are calling it now... Pure Cinema Direct or some other rubbish.

I've not tried my xbox elite yet, but I'd assume the games consoles are all 1080p (I know the titles vary from 720 to 1080).

Very few games are native 1080p, most are scaled. Virtua Tennis,Stardust HD and a few others are exceptions.

The PS3 will automatically output at native res, but the 360 will automatically scale to whatever you've set in the dashboard. With the 360, you're often better changing the output away from 1080p for 720p native games, as many TV's do a better job of scaling up to 1080p than the 360 does. Of course, if you do this, you then need to change it back to 1080 for 1080 games. Same applies for streaming media to an extent.

Easy.

Not.

[Zak33]

that lot sounds like hell

I'll skip HD for this year

[bigblue]

that lot sounds like hell

Nah, it's fun really

Try to see Aquariavision on a well set-up TV to see what you're missing out on. Wonderful high def fishy goodness. Better than several Blu-Rays I've watched.