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About LinkBacksI own one of these, there' fantastic for the money. Why would someone buy an mp3 player without an LCD screen?Originally Posted by Marcos
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I own one of these, there' fantastic for the money. Why would someone buy an mp3 player without an LCD screen?
It also comes with a radio, EQ presets, and sounds good via some seinheisers.
Too True !
The thing with Apple is they sell the whole package, they sell a lifestyle rather than a gadget.
The philosophy of the iPod Shuffle is for people who use the player every day just like PinkPig. Each morning you unplug the iPod from USB and it's fully charged and loaded with tunes. At the end of the day you come home plug it in and it charges the batteries via USB while it randomly picks tunes for the next day. If you have any problems with the tracks not copying or downloading properly, then you contact Apple full stop - they make the player and they make iTunes - again, complete service.
Thanks for pointing out the MP3 player at Aria though might have to get one of those.
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I would hate to have no screen
The problem with that, is that it's going to seriously reduce the life expectancy of the battery. If you want to put some new tracks on there before you use up all it's charge, you're just going to hurt it. I'd rather have one that runs off removeable batteries.
Your point about selling a life-style is very true though. I just don't care much for Apple products because I feel like I'm being patronised everytime I turn one on.
That, and their whole "style-over-substance" approach to technology.
I think you'll find the type of batterys in these (like most new high capacity batterys) will shorten if you cycle them, they liked to be topped up. Like NiHi batts used for the 2100 and 2800 you use in Digi cameras under no circumstance cycle the battery as you'll dramatically reduce its life.
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Lithium-Ion batteries don't have a problem with being topped up.
WaitNi-MH and Li-Ion both like to be topped up not cycled??
Wait, so Li-Ion batts don't have any memory affects at all? I knew they had circuitry to prevent over-charging, but I thought all batts had memory effects simply due to their chemical nature?
If I'm wrong do tell cos that's a pretty cool feature!
Edit:
I just had a quick scoot on google and found this:
"To maintain the battery pack’s maximum capacity, occasionally you should let the computer totally deplete its battery power before recharging. If you have not been doing this, and your battery life has decreased you may need to do this discharge-charge cycle a number of times (3-5) to improve the performance."
Although, that was for maintaining Li-Ion LAPTOP batteries, so I'm not sure if the same applies to other portable devices etc.
Last edited by da.Guvna; 18-01-2005 at 01:10 PM.
Li-Ion is Li-Ion - the same technique should apply to all devices that use them.
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So, are you telling me that i shouldnt worry about leaving my battery in my laptop when im plugged up to AC power and the battery is already on 100% ? Even for extended periods of time (week or two).
I thought thats what killed my older laptop's battery, the fact that i left the battery in the laptop and i thought it just kept charging all the time which wore out the batt.
I've been looking for an answer to this question for years, i dont trust laptop batteries, especially as they are expensive.
http://hardwarehell.com/battery.htm
It's all in there.
Interesting link, here is the part that applies to me:
Now, this is basically what i did with my old laptop. I used it for probably months at a time plugged into AC power. Which is what must have ruined that batt. But then there is this other bit of info:It is also recommended that if you don't use the battery for more than two weeks, you should completely discharge the battery and store it at room temperature.
So, if i havent used the batt for 2 weeks and i dont plan on using it for even longer, i should run the laptop down to 0% and then take the battery out and store it?As far as battery usage goes, it is recommended that you should use the battery once every two weeks, and keep the battery in the system so that the AC adapter can keep the battery charged at all times.
But if im not sure if im using it or not, I should just go through a complete cycle every 2 weeks?
Im going to try that 'batt revival' technique on my old batt
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I had a 1st Gen iPod when they 1st came out and thought they were amazing. The old one packed in and bought a 40gb iPod foto the day BEFORE the shuffle came out. There is no way on this earth I'd swap it for a shuffle though because I want to choose what music I wanna play and not let the software choose. Maybe I'm just a picky music lover?
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http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm
http://www.batteryuniversity.com/partone-12.htm
Don't fully discharge them.
So...contrary to hardwarehell.com, you should never fully discharge them?
Hey, those articles are really handy (much more in-depth than the hardwarehell ones), cheers Caged!
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