Haswell vs Ivy Bridge?

[KeyboardDemon]

I know it's been said already, but I am in agreement with those that are saying it's not worth upgrading Ivy Bridge to Haswell but Haswell would be the better choice for a fresh/new build?

[Nezbert]

Yeah, and also those two Haswell's I mentioned have the newer HD 4600 graphics advantage over Ivy Bridge, so playing HD video should be a slightly slicker experience.

[DB007]

If you can wait - may be better Win 10 comes along later this year along with the new hardware that is coming down the pipeline.
2016 looks to be a big refresh - those of us with CPU/mobo hardware in that last 4 years are probably holding off until skylake-k models are being released. I'm looking to keep my nehalm i720 oc to 3.6 until then or if it blows up do a replacement for whats available.

[Nezbert]

I'm thinking of upgrading my HTPC, probably around August...

I'd also been contemplating Ivy Bridge over Haswell as I'm not gaming with it and don't see the point in spending loads.

I'd like something with 65W TDP or under as I'm powering the rig with a solid state PSU (90W, I think).

Anyway, I've been looking at the 4590S vs the 4690S and I think I'll go Haswell due to socket 1150. I think they're both essentially the same chip but with the 4690S being clocked slightly higher I'm tempted to go for that. If I'm spending around £200 for a mobo/CPU I might as well pay an extra £10 to £15 for the slightly faster chip...

I quoted myself due to new page.

I was thinking earlier: since I'm going to be building in a restricted space (small ITX cube case) would I be better off with the 4590S? It's clocked 200MHz lower than the 4690S but apart from the turbo and base speeds being 200MHz lower they are exactly the same chip spec on Intel ARK.

I'm gonna be using my massive CoolerMaster GeminII cooler if I can attach it to the new board; it's currently fitted to my AMD FM2 board and runs almost silent.

Any ideas if the slower 4590S would generate less heat in the small case, or would it be so negligible that I might as well go for the slightly faster 4690S?

[DanceswithUnix]

I quoted myself due to new page.

I was thinking earlier: since I'm going to be building in a restricted space (small ITX cube case) would I be better off with the 4590S? It's clocked 200MHz lower than the 4690S but apart from the turbo and base speeds being 200MHz lower they are exactly the same chip spec on Intel ARK.

I'm gonna be using my massive CoolerMaster GeminII cooler if I can attach it to the new board; it's currently fitted to my AMD FM2 board and runs almost silent.

Any ideas if the slower 4590S would generate less heat in the small case, or would it be so negligible that I might as well go for the slightly faster 4690S?

What do you need the extra performance for?

Given you have a dual core APU in an FM2 motherboard, I would have thought something like the 4 core 65W A8-6700 would be the ideal choice. If the board is actually FM2+ then you get a better choice.

http://www.ebuyer.com/507062-amd-apu...-ad6700okhlbox

[Nezbert]

I've had a couple of i5's before, including the 2500K when it came out, and they kicked arse. The 6400K I'm using is a fine chip but as my HTPC is also my main PC I find I'm increasingly using it for multiple programs simultaneously and there can be a slight lag with dual core. I fancy going back to an i5 due to them being very slick at running multiple programs in the past.

[OneIT]

I've had a couple of i5's before, including the 2500K when it came out, and they kicked arse. The 6400K I'm using is a fine chip but as my HTPC is also my main PC I find I'm increasingly using it for multiple programs simultaneously and there can be a slight lag with dual core. I fancy going back to an i5 due to them being very slick at running multiple programs in the past.

I had the 2500K at the time too, with a custom waterloop I got 5.1GHz out of it and it really flew!

Unfortunately the motherboard gave up on me. Since then I've been on Sandybridge-E engineering sample processor (basically a 3960X) and with that many threads and clocked at 4.7GHz there's really no need to upgrade!

Id advise getting the i5 if you want the better choice for your system!

[Nezbert]

I agree, OneIT. Especially with the new range of Broadwell processors being the current model. The slightly older Haswell processors should come down in price a little bit over the coming months. A Haswell refresh i5 CPU is a fine choice if you want a fast, highly competent, processor but don't want to pay extra for the latest bleeding edge technology.

[DanceswithUnix]

The slightly older Haswell processors should come down in price a little bit over the coming months.

If you compare a Haswell to a Haswell refresh prices, it might save you a quid to buy the older (slower) part. Prices of old models don't really drop, CPUs are not like cars.

If you are prepared to wait for the price to go down, and you want something in the 65W range, then just wait for Broadwell or Skylake to turn up in a form that suits you. They are more laptop suited, so should give better bang per watt.