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    Breastfeeding adults - Islamic Loophole

    OK. I read the Arabic press because I lived in Arabic countries for a good 1/3 of my life and speak the language. So I came across this gem in my perusals and thought I should share a snippet of carefully considered religious dogma with you.

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    Al-Azhar Lecturer Suspended after Issuing Controversial Fatwa Recommending Breastfeeding of Men by Women in the Workplace
    By: L. Lavi


    The head of the Hadith Department in Al-AzharUniversity, Dr. Izzat Atiyya, recently issued a controversial fatwa dealing with breastfeeding of adults. The fatwa stated that a woman who is required to work in private with a man not of her immediate family - a situation that is forbidden by Islamic law - can resolve the problem by breastfeeding the man, which, according to shari'a, turns him into a member of her immediate family.

    The fatwa sparked a storm of protest in the Egyptian public arena, especially within the religious establishment. It was harshly criticized by Muslim Brotherhood MPs, who even brought it up for discussion in parliament, as well as by Egyptian intellectuals and columnists.

    In response, Al-AzharUniversity formed a special committee to debate the fatwa, and on the recommendation of this committee, Dr. Atiyya was suspended. The Egyptian information minister ordered the removal from sellers' shelves of the issue of the government weekly Al-Watani Al-Yawm in which the fatwa had been published.

    Dr. Atiyya, on his part, published a retraction and apologized, saying that the fatwa was no more than a personal interpretation of a certain hadith, and furthermore, that the hadith in question relates a particular incident that occurred under specific constraints, and has no general applicability. However, Al-Azhar refused to accept his apology.


    Ok. This sounds a little mad, but it can all be explained.

    Dr. Izzat Atiyya explained his fatwa (Blah, blah, blah). He said: "The religious ruling that appears in the Prophet's conduct [Sunna] confirms that breastfeeding allows a man and a woman to be together in private, even if they are not family and if the woman did not nurse the man in his infancy, before he was weaned - providing that their being together serves some purpose, religious or secular...
    "Being together in private means being in a room with the door closed, so that nobody can see them... A man and a woman who are not family members are not permitted [to do this], because it raises suspicions and doubts. A man and a woman who are alone together are not [necessarily] having sex, but this possibility exists, and breastfeeding provides a solution to this problem... I also insist that the breastfeeding relationship be officially documented in writing... The contract will state that this woman has suckled this man... After this, the woman may remove her hijab and expose her hair in the man's [presence]...
    Dr. Atiyya further explained that the breastfeeding does not necessarily have to be done by the woman herself. "The important point," he said, "is that the man and the woman must be related through breastfeeding. [This can also be achieved] by means of the man's mother or sister suckling the woman, or by means of the woman's mother or sister suckling the man, since [all of these solutions legally] turn them into brother and sister...


    So that’s all clear. In order that a woman can work with a man in private, without suspicion of an improper relationship developing, all that is necessary is that she allows him to suck her breasts.

    You have to wonder really; what planet do these religious types live on?

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    hahaha oh how religion is flawed

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    LOL..........erm there is something in this Islamic religion, as one thing could lead to another if the woman gets aroused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by htid View Post
    hahaha oh how religion is flawed
    I love the generic application of that statement

    Hilarious extract though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kickstart 1 View Post
    Ewwwwww.
    lol, that is ****ed up

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    so what you are saying, is that if i want to be alone with a muslim woman, i just have to be suckled by her sister?


    win win situation methinks
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    No. It could be her, her sister and her mother.

    And this will prevent anything untoward happening.

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    Hence the islamic phrase, "Get ya **** out for the lads"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowe View Post
    Hence the islamic phrase, "Get ya **** out for the lads"
    yup...the very one

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    Classic. I find it sad that in the supposed 21st century such thought still exists even though I have respected it whilst visiting a muslim country. i.e. when in Rome.

    I love the bit that says that if I suck on your breasts you will then be allowed to show me your hair! Bloody hell shes showing me her hair, I'm so excited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iranu View Post
    I have respected it whilst visiting a muslim country. i.e. when in Rome.
    i did not know Rome was a muslim country...

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    Quote Originally Posted by colincliff View Post
    i did not know Rome was a muslim country...
    i did not know Rome was a country full stop...

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    So you can't see her face but the more private bits are ok? What a wierd set of rules they have!

    The UK would ban BF but doubt that the ban would stand for Muslims if the Muslims quoted this or that rule in case of backlash. A screwed up country!
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezerone View Post
    ...
    The UK would ban BF but doubt that the ban would stand for Muslims if the Muslims quoted this or that rule in case of backlash. A screwed up country!
    You're suggesting that as a society we would like to criminalise breastfeeding throughout the UK, and the only reason we do not is because it would offend politically correct muslim men who insist on being suckled at work? Er....yes, that's probably right...

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    And finally....the devil made this man microwave his baby.


    Yep, no flaws in religion in general, then
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