New vegetable discovered....free range eggs!

[steve threlfall]

Hush now! Soy is good for the moobs!

Packed full of phytoestrogeny goodness!

Exactly. Save money on boob growing hormone pills and just eat some nice soy instead. Apparently the oestrogen mimicking chemicals that it contains appear only at 'safe' levels

Eat up now, Moobalicious!

A good diet requires balance and there is nothing that can substitute the nutritional value of meat.

[kalniel]

Good health requires excercise and nothing beats running 50 miles a day and taking down that Woolly Mammoth

Seriously, yes there is - there's nothing you need from meat that you can't get from other sources. If we were desperate for the concentration of nutrition that meat provides then sure, but since we no longer live a hunter lifestyle that requirement is no longer there, thus we do not need meat to have a good diet.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with meat in iteself - just it's not at all a requirement given today's lifestyle.

[IBM]

Okay, so I can get the protein et al from other manufactured sources....but where am I going to get that little sense of satisfaction when the 'ickle lamb bleats its last after I cut its throat just in time for dinner?

I've tried pulverising soy beans, but it's just not the same.

[kalniel]

Since when did eating meat have much to do with what you do to the animal? If there was more of a connection in general then maybe I would be a meat eater

[Brucelles]

Okay, so I can get the protein et al from other manufactured sources....but where am I going to get that little sense of satisfaction when the 'ickle lamb bleats its last after I cut its throat just in time for dinner?

I've tried pulverising soy beans, but it's just not the same.

You know that if you killed it a few hours before dinner you could cook it. (You have to skin and gut it first, of course)

[IBM]

I like my baby sheep meat still twitching, or not at all, thank you very much.

And I'm quite disturbed that Kalniel is suggesting he would actually eat meat, if he got to personally dispatch the little critters, and revel in their dying...

Or am I reading too much into it?

[MadduckUK]

nope thats what he said. he'd only eat the animal if he formed a bond with it before hand.

[kickstart 1]

I like my baby sheep meat still twitching, or not at all, thank you very much.

And I'm quite disturbed that Kalniel is suggesting he would actually eat meat, if he got to personally dispatch the little critters, and revel in their dying...

Or am I reading too much into it?

What a horrible comment

[IBM]

nope thats what he said. he'd only eat the animal if he formed a bond with it before hand.

So he wants to be friends with his meat before he slaughters it? What is wrong with that guy?

[IBM]

What a horrible comment

wasn't it though...

[iranu]

I just hope all you meat eaters are out hunting for your food day in and day out, keeping warm by the fire lit in the entrance to your cave, as we have done for thousands of years.

I walked down to Tesco the other day and had to fight off a few shoppers to get a rather tasty bit of steak that was in the reduced section. I walked back home and cooked it on the BBQ outside. It was raining a bit so I had the BBQ just outside the door in the garden. Does that count?

Cos I get sandwiches delivered to the office and the only vegetarian option is avocado salad.

"im a level 12 vegan, I don't eat anything that casts a shadow" (i think that's it)

I'm a level 12 thetan and a level 12 B3tan. Cost me $100,000 and the ability to photochop anything but I draw the line at level 1 vegan.

A good diet requires balance and there is nothing that can substitute the nutritional value of meat.

A very sensible comment. The human body can eat a huge variety of foods and this is one of the reasons why we are so succesful. Sustainability has as much to do with the number of people on the planet as it does with the production method. Battery farming for chickens is certainly more efficient than free range or "organic". This can be seen in the price. Ditto wheat production in large conglomorate farms as opposed to small holdings. Even the great soy bean is not the great saviour simply because it is suitable for growing in Brazil where virgin rain forest is being stripped and burnt to plant soy bean, ditto palm oil for biodeisel in Borneo. The question is what monetary price, environmental price or animal welfare price are you prepared to pay? Many, including people in the UK don't have that choice.

The only true way to be fully sustainable is to grow your own food and starve if it's not enough.

[Lee H]

Am I one of the only few that's caught something, skinned and de-gutted it and then cooked it?

The item in question was a rabbit and this was on a weekend's training session with the army cadets. The stew we made was extremely nice indeed

[Brucelles]

No. I used to work at a farm between my terms at A-level, and I had to prepare a sheep. I also killed and butchered a pig in Iran a few years later. I was told to keep the blood for black pudding, but the bucket I used was a bit on the tiny side so there was some mess. Just a bit. I also couldn't face hurting it so I gave it several cans of beer and an overdose of vallium. No-one complained about the meat though.

Come to think of it, I have prepared several birds of one type or another too, and fish, of course.

[chicken]

I gutted a haggis the other day, didn't catch it myself though, you don't get any around these southern parts.

[IBM]

Och, they're little buggers to catch anyway, and they'll give you a nasty nip if you're not careful. They say they taste better if you scare them silly before killing them....

[IBM]

Spaced and getting spacier....I'm tempted to just follow you around and see what you say....

Man, I waste so much time on here...