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BBC NEWS | In Pictures | In pictures: Cumbrian train crash
nothing is that safe.
Stewart, seriously look at:
BBC NEWS | In Pictures | In pictures: Cumbrian train crash
nothing is that safe.
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Reports seam to be that the engines were making a lot of noise, one witness commenting that it sounded like the airplane was on takeoff. Could be a microburst encounter?
Backseat piloting FTW!
there was a gremlin on the plane!Originally Posted by TeePee
Reports seam to be that the engines were making a lot of noise, one witness commenting that it sounded like the airplane was on takeoff. Could be a microburst encounter?
Backseat piloting FTW!
Gremlins! Gremlins! I'm not imagining it, he's out there! Don't look, he's not out there now. He jumps away whenever anyone might see him, except me.
I think it just ran out of fuel
I just got back - flights where delayed a couple of hours from Philly to Heathrow - I'll have to check my booking but I coudl have sworn I was supposed to be flying 777's both ways , but it was a 767 on the way back ( which was nicer as its had better video on demand)
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I love that Gimli Glider story, and for some reason thought of it when I saw the crash pictures.
What I like best about all this is the proper low-fuss modern English attitudes we're seeing. The pilot took his crew out for a curry after the crash. And a couple interviewed on TV said they thought it was 'a bit of a bumpy landing'. Then they probably went home and had a nice cup of tea, maybe some scones. What ho! Eh, Jeeves?
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I'm another that's quite happy and calm on flights. I have to say that I do do things like count the number of seats to the nearest exit and look at the safety stuff too just incase. I'm also a bit weird in that I actually don't mind aircraft food. One of the best stakes I ever had was on a Virgin flight from NZ to LA.
The strangest flight I've ever taken was with Merpati airlines (Indonesia) from Padang to Merdan in a mad dash to get ahead of a bus that we had left our passports on. (Very long story that I ought to type up and share). Sat on this tiny aircraft with people who had chickens as luggage! As we taxied I noticed the seat on my left was free. Then the air hostess sat down on this seat and as we prepared to take off. I noticed her gripping the armrest tightly so I asked her if she was ok to which she replied "take off very dangerous". I think Merpati had been losing a few aircraft at the time.
Food on that flight was interesting I can tell ya!
Don't like the 777 for long haul though. Worst flight I had was going to Cleveland or somewhere with an American airline and it was torture.
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Yes, yes.
You all love flying, some of you don't even use a plane, you just do it, and those of you who do prefer it if the wings fall off, and you can only sleep if either the pilot is also asleep or the seat next to you is on fire, to keep you warm.
Also you spend every third Wednesday mocking the feeble efforts of the Red Arrows, who learned everything they know from watching CCTV footage of you flying a Blackbird SR71 when you were 4.
The Blackbird was on fire and the wings had fallen off, because they were on fire, and you were on fire, but you didn't notice because you were asleep.
Gits.
Sometimes I think there is only me and Dennis Bergkamp left.
Last edited by Stewart; 18-01-2008 at 08:58 PM.
I smile every time I listen to the safety information and the safety leaflet shows a plane on the water. This is my (deluded?) logic: a plane cruises at something like 40,000-60,000ft over the sea, something goes wrong resulting in the altitude been reduced to 0 without the plane been able to make it back to land - rather than the plane gliding to a rest and floating on the water, I thinking the plane will either be in little bits before it hits the water or will have reached terminal velocity by the time you 'land' on the water. And if you are seating next to me on a flight I will tell you thisThey are built to be able to take a landing on water and float for a while, the Pacific is pretty big so there is plenty of room to glide in as well, lots of landing spots
I've got an irrational fear of needles, some people have an irrational fear of flying making logical arguments don't normal make any difference to them.
To the story I heard there were a few complains they the passengers were not informed by the pilot what was going on, an ex-pilot on BBC news this morning said he would concentrate on flying the plane rather than making announcements and assumed the pilot of this plane had done the same thing.
Not deluded at all, makes perfect sense. Difference is that I did Aeronautical Design Technology at uni so therefore have a bit more faith in them. I know what they are capable of and for that reason I put far more trust into them.I smile every time I listen to the safety information and the safety leaflet shows a plane on the water. This is my (deluded?) logic: a plane cruises at something like 40,000-60,000ft over the sea, something goes wrong resulting in the altitude been reduced to 0 without the plane been able to make it back to land - rather than the plane gliding to a rest and floating on the water, I thinking the plane will either be in little bits before it hits the water or will have reached terminal velocity by the time you 'land' on the water. And if you are seating next to me on a flight I will tell you this
If it was the Typhoon, it would break up seconds in the air when it lost all power. An airliner won't. The difference is that airliners are built to be aerodynamically stable, i.e., if you let go of the conrtols, it should remain in a steady "glide" path. Obviously, this glide path may be steeper for some aircraft compare to others, but airliners will still glide nonetheless. It shouldn't reach VNE (Velocity Never Exceeded, i.e when the speed causes the wings to rip up).I smile every time I listen to the safety information and the safety leaflet shows a plane on the water. This is my (deluded?) logic: a plane cruises at something like 40,000-60,000ft over the sea, something goes wrong resulting in the altitude been reduced to 0 without the plane been able to make it back to land - rather than the plane gliding to a rest and floating on the water, I thinking the plane will either be in little bits before it hits the water or will have reached terminal velocity by the time you 'land' on the water. And if you are seating next to me on a flight I will tell you this
I believe most airliners have RATs (Ram Air Turbines), a small propellor that will extend into the airflow and be turned by the aircraft gliding forwards. This will drive a hydraulic pump to move the flying controls. It should also generate some electricity to supplement the batteries to power critical systems. It would then just be a case of gliding into the sea. The major benefit of the sea over land is the lack of obstacles in the way, which means you can just turn into wind. However, seas aren't generally calm and flat...
Last time I flew transatlantic I was on one of BA's 747s, I'd probably decline the flight if it was a Typhoon - especially the single seater, I can't fly a plane
Seriously that's interesting stuff, a safety feature I was not aware of ... the point I'm making is airliners are very safe but if the plane is cruising at a very high altitude over the sea and something go wrong that result in the plane not be able to make it back to dry land then it probably something catastrophic. Other than sea planes, how many airplanes have landed on the sea in a emergency
This one:
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You think that is a plane 'landing' on the sea?
When you were training to be a pilot did you miss the lesson that explained the difference between landing and crashing?
I believe that's called a "controlled flight into terrain". I would have thought it would have gone "better" if it had made contact with the water level rather than one wing first though.
A Typhoon isn't that hard to fly. Just put in the co-ords into the autopilot and let the plane do the rest. Would have to refuel once or twice along the way, but that can be all automated as well. Don't worry about landing, just pull the lever in between your legs when you're over your destination
its not THAT excitingjust pull the lever in between your legs when you're over your destination
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