Anti-war peace march in London in March

[Steven W]

Stop the War Coalition Online

Planning to attend? Think it's a waste of time?

I know the government will do what they're going to do regardless of what the public do or say, but I'll be there anyhow.

[MadduckUK]

the Anti-peace war march is going to be so much better

[Blitzen]

Stop the War Coalition Online

Planning to attend? Think it's a waste of time?

I know the government will do what they're going to do regardless of what the public do or say, but I'll be there anyhow.

Waste of time.......

These marches are for:
-the jobless
-the tree-huggers
-people with nothing more pressing to attend to

IF they knew anyone in the forces i could maybe understand it but they are marching about things they know nothing about.

Bloody hippies!

[Mblaster]

Not sure what they're trying to achieve, do they want the army to up and leave right now? Even if you're against the war, it's hard to argue that that's a good option.

[JPreston]

IF they knew anyone in the forces i could maybe understand it but they are marching about things they know nothing about.

Bloody hippies!

I reject that statement as completely invalid. this is a political issue and so personal affiliation with the armed forces is totally irrelevant.

Of course, if you don't think it's a particularly pressing issue you are welcome to sit in the pub or go shopping instead but IIRC the last march was the most highly attended of any issue in history and this one is likely to beat that record.

[Blitzen]

I reject that statement as completely invalid. this is a political issue and so personal affiliation with the armed forces is totally irrelevant.

Of course, if you don't think it's a particularly pressing issue you are welcome to sit in the pub or go shopping instead but IIRC the last march was the most highly attended of any issue in history and this one is likely to beat that record.

Reject what you like.

The fact remains that people are marching and protesting about things they know very little about. All they know is what they see in the papers/on the news.

Meanwhile the armed forces are in another country, doing a job, whilst poeple back home are saying how much they are wasting their time.

Have you any idea on how the morale of these men and women is affected by this type of rubbish? I have and its a real kick in the bawls!

Its just aswell, they men & women out there dont think like you and these 'protesters'.
Almost all the people i know that are there/have been there thought they were doing the right thing. Me included.

What i do reject is the fact you think i will 'go shopping' or sit in the pub' and ignore it.
I did 2 tours of Iraq in the 90's and, unless you are a politician, or a high ranking member of the armed forces, you have proved with you last post how little you know about it.
Just because people march saying 'bring our people home', does that make them right? Of course not!

Its VERY easy to be an 'armchair' critic when you are thousands of miles away from the effected area. Thats EXACTLY what 99.999% of people on that march will be. Just because they protest about it, it doesnt mean they are actually informed does it?
From your comment that is almost certainly the category you would fall into.

[StevenF]

How many people do they expect will attend?

[Steven W]

Waste of time.......

These marches are for:
-the jobless
-the tree-huggers
-people with nothing more pressing to attend to

IF they knew anyone in the forces i could maybe understand it but they are marching about things they know nothing about.

Bloody hippies!

That's the voice of the sheep.

[Blitzen]

That's the voice of the sheep.

Maybe if you read my other post you will see how wrong your claim is.

I think you will find, the sheep will be on the march.

[Nickg]

definately not attending. i didnt know that we were currently "at war" to begin with. i am against war, but i am also against stupidity.

it would be a reckless move to suddenly shift our men back home when there is a danger on other borders.

I agree that America need to stop playing world police with a vested interest, and on the back of that we would scale down also. or we need to be prepared to cut our current ties and move into an altogether different relationship with the US if we do not want to tow their current line.

[Steven W]

Maybe if you read my other post you will see how wrong your claim is.

I did.

I did 2 tours of Iraq in the 90's

[TiG]

Reject what you like.

The fact remains that people are marching and protesting about things they know very little about. All they know is what they see in the papers/on the news.

Meanwhile the armed forces are in another country, doing a job, whilst poeple back home are saying how much they are wasting their time.

Have you any idea on how the morale of these men and women is affected by this type of rubbish? I have and its a real kick in the bawls!

Its just aswell, they men & women out there dont think like you and these 'protesters'.
Almost all the people i know that are there/have been there thought they were doing the right thing. Me included.

What i do reject is the fact you think i will 'go shopping' or sit in the pub' and ignore it.
I did 2 tours of Iraq in the 90's and, unless you are a politician, or a high ranking member of the armed forces, you have proved with you last post how little you know about it.
Just because people march saying 'bring our people home', does that make them right? Of course not!

Its VERY easy to be an 'armchair' critic when you are thousands of miles away from the effected area. Thats EXACTLY what 99.999% of people on that march will be. Just because they protest about it, it doesnt mean they are actually informed does it?
From your comment that is almost certainly the category you would fall into.

Sorry are you saying Soliders know what they are getting into when they get sent to war?, they sit you down and go through all the policitical arguements with you before they send you in?.

I agree the march will achieve nothing and don't think we should pull troops out, but I also don't agree with your view of anyone knowing the true picture of an alien culture to the western society being understood in the slightest.

Protesting about being "at war" is completely part of democracy, uninformed or not, its the whole point of our ability as a democractic society to be able to express this right.

Telling people they can't go and protest at something is something better placed in a dictatorship

TiG

[GonZoRush]

Had to chime in to this one.

I’m no tree hugger or a hippy but I clearly understand that we and the Americans are fighting two wars in Iraq & Afghanistan........for energy reserves!! It’s not about Osama or AlCIAda.

Its all about the black gold that helped to make that keyboard you’re typing with right now, however I dare say like most people don’t give a monkeys about how their stuff is made or who has to die to get it made, blissfully blinkered ignorance you could argue, to those I say go back to playing Wow with the fairy’s.

Yeah I’ll be attending the anti-war march!

[Lucio]

I think our leaders have been trying to do what they think is best for the long term future of our country. If we didn't get into the wars alongside the US, they'd be less inclined to agree trade deals in the future, or might choose to ignore us if we got attacked. IMO, it's an impossible choice for any human to have to make but you couldn't avoid it either!

Yes, it's important in a democracy for the people to voice their concerns but you also have to accept that sometimes, your personal opinion isn't worth anything, whether it's because you lack information (or have corrupted information thanks to the media) or because simply, this time more people disagreed with you.


Personally, I'm more inclined to agree with Blitzen, a march on this scale is pretty fruitless and many people who voice their opinion that the war was bad simply haven't taken the time to research the issue properly. Their anti-war opinion has gone from a belief, to an unchangble conviction as their heads have been filled with biased reasoning. My experience with people who are anti (or pro) war is limited, most people I know simply don't think about these issues, but almost everyone on the anti-war side has voiced an extremely strong opinion that all war is bad regardless of the reasoning and were not open to discussion or debate on the matter.

[Blitzen]

Telling people they can't go and protest at something is something better placed in a dictatorship

Im not saying people cant go and protest.
Im saying that the vast, vast majority of them have absolutely no idea what they are protesting about. Just saying 'stop the war' without any kind of informed opinion is useless.

I’m no tree hugger or a hippy but I clearly understand that we and the Americans are fighting two wars in Iraq & Afghanistan........for energy reserves!!

The reason why you think you clearly understand is because thats all the information you have been drip fed. You, i suspect, along with most of the rest of us only have this information to go on. Im suprised people can be naive enough to believe we are fighting on these 2 fronts with just oil in mind.

As for the 'black gold' theory........please..........try and be a little original. Its the reason everyone gives when they dont know whats going on. Its such an easy excuse.

Just out of curiosity, are you stopping using your car during this 'oil crusade' as a protest aswell? Surely if your beliefs are that strong then thats a good way for all to protest and voice your opinions.

[usxhe190]

24 - season 2

edit - all i know is, we went to war on the assumption that there were vast amounts of WMDs.

anyway back to topic

public protest is a waste of time. you want the uk government to listen to you? only if you are a billionaire and donate large amounts of political money to them.