I really hope this isn't how most people in america think...

[ajbrun]

I think you're mis-understanding. I didn't say that Americans were racist, and I never meant to infer it. What I did say was that some are very racist (see the video for an example). I also didn't say that people in the UK are never racist, but I also don't believe that people over here will actually hate someone to the extent that was shown in the video due to their race in as many numbers.

I'm aware that the people shown in the video may not be representative of America. Is may not even be representative of middle America - I don't know. I was just saying that I hope that's not the case. As a whole, I like America, but I simply don't agree with some of the stronger views that some people have over there.

You inferred that it was someone in this thread that first mentioned something about religion, but it was in fact first mentioned in the video.

He's not a Christian. This is a Christian nation. What is our country going to end up like?

Hinting that only a Christian should be allowed to be president. Why should religion even come into it?

And I believe Palin - she's filled with the holy spirit

Is that a good reason to vote for someone? Not because of their views on important issues, but because she seems more in touch with god.

Just the whole Muslim thing and everything. I mean he ...I mean a lot of people forgot about 9/11 but it's still kind of... I don't know - a little unnerving

Hints that Obama is a Muslim (untrue as far as I know, but it shouldn't matter anyway), and that he (as a Muslim) may have had something to do with 9/11.

The guy in the video supporting Obama in the (I assume) McCain dominated town has been called a Muslim (as if it's offensive). See point above.

I'm sure you can see how all of those quotes can raise the statement "I really hope this isn't how most people in America thing".

Is there a degree of racism in the states, still? Sure. Is there any where you are? I'm thinking so. Is blind attack of the people of any country simply because they reside in said country a form of racism? You bet!

I'm not saying that England has never been racist, or even that it isn't today. I just don't see that degree of racism happening over here. Maybe I don't live in the right part of the country to see it?

[christiansoldie]

hmmm... no black or minority leadership in UK to hate... which came first, the cause or the effect???



It's been fun, cousins. Drop by with some kippered something-or-other if you get stateside.

[Rave]

Don't fall into the trap of assuming that the majority of Americans are ignorant rednecks. That's an Al Jazeera news report; I'm not suggesting that their interviewees were plants, but I do suspect some highly selective editing. Let's face it, if you went and interviewed a number of people in Barking around election time you'd find plenty who were prepared to spout racist, ignorant views on air, and you could probably edit those interviews into a pretty compelling piece of news footage. That doesn't mean that the majority of people in Barking are BNP supporters- and to extend that to suggest that the majority of Britons are would be absurd. Yet that, it seems to me, is what many of you in this thread are doing with this clip.

Obama is about 13 points ahead in the polls ATM as I understand it- even taking into account the Bradley Effect that should be ebough to see him comfortably elected.

For the record, as far as I can see (and I do take a considerable interest), Senator McCain is a brave and decent man (abeit one with a very short temper); he pointedly corrected a woman who suggested at one of his rallies that Obama was a terrorist for goodness sake. He is clearly not like GW Bush. It's only the fact that he has selected (I suspect against his better judgement) Sarah Palin as his running mate that makes me hope so fervently for an Obama victory.

[christiansoldie]

Obama is about 13 points ahead in the polls ATM as I understand it- even taking into account the Bradley Effect that should be ebough to see him comfortably elected.

Oddly enough, I have not been polled and have never met anyone who has.

He seems to have a hurdle to jump, yet, as it may well turn out that he is not eligible to be President.

Barack Hussein Obama - U.S. Citizen???

[MadduckUK]

[christiansoldie]

[TooNice]

Don't fall into the trap of assuming that the majority of Americans are ignorant rednecks. [...] Let's face it, if you went and interviewed a number of people in Barking around election time you'd find plenty who were prepared to spout racist, ignorant views on air, and you could probably edit those interviews into a pretty compelling piece of news footage. That doesn't mean that the majority of people in Barking are BNP supporters- and to extend that to suggest that the majority of Britons are would be absurd.
[...]
It's only the fact that he has selected (I suspect against his better judgement) Sarah Palin as his running mate that makes me hope so fervently for an Obama victory.

I agree with the above in that I am sure you'll find irrational/intolerant people like this everywhere.

And seems that even though Palin was introduced as a game-changer, the gap in the polls have grown lately after she was picked.

From what I've seen, there are plenty of middle class who are not worried about Obama's colour/religion, but concerned about his economic policies and particularly on taxes.

[christiansoldie]

I agree with the above in that I am sure you'll find irrational/intolerant people like this everywhere. And seems that even though Palin was introduced as a game-changer, the gap in the polls have grown lately after she was picked.

From what I've gathered, there are plenty of middle class who are not worried about Obama's colour/religion, but concerned about his economic policies and particularly taxes.

Middle class? What middle class?

[Nick]

I'll be sad to see Bush go.

For years I've been living in hope that he'll accidentally invade France instead of Iraq...

"Sir, the enemy has been defeated..."
"What are the enemy casualties?"
"None sir, they just dropped their cigarettes and ran away to Italy."
"Italy? Erm... is that the boot-shaped one? Yeah? At the bottom of Europe?... oh bugger..."

[christiansoldie]

I'll be sad to see Bush go.

For years I've been living in hope that he'll accidentally invade France instead of Iraq...

"Sir, the enemy has been defeated..."
"What are the enemy casualties?"
"None sir, they just dropped their cigarettes and ran away to Italy."
"Italy? Erm... is that the boot-shaped one? Yeah? At the bottom of Europe?... oh bugger..."

I was kind of hoping they would come over here and choke on American fries.

[chuckskull]

Oddly enough, I have not been polled and have never met anyone who has.

He seems to have a hurdle to jump, yet, as it may well turn out that he is not eligible to be President.

Barack Hussein Obama - U.S. Citizen???

Which is strange for you to say, because you've obviously been a victim of something called push-polling. Even if not directly.

If you don't know what it is; it amounts to phoning up thousands of people and asking a very carefully worded question like, "Would you vote for Barack Obama if found out he was a Muslim?" The average gullible monkey's response is "OMG he's Muslim?!?!?!". A few weeks of this and 40% of America believes he's Muslim, despite his Reverend from the United Church of Christ(a Christian church btw) being on television all day, everyday for nearly a month.

This is something both sides are guilty of but the Republicans have really gone to town with it this year.

As for your ridiculous non-American point. It's very easy to find out where a presidential candidate was born. Shock-horror it was in the US of A.

Edit: And please stop spamming your real estate website.

[christiansoldie]

Which is strange for you to say, because you've obviously been a victim of something called push-polling. Even if not directly.

If you don't know what it is; it amounts to phoning up thousands of people and asking a very carefully worded question like, "Would you vote for Barack Obama if found out he was a Muslim?" The average gullible monkey's response is "OMG he's Muslim?!?!?!". A few weeks of this and 40% of America believes he's Muslim, despite his Reverend from the United Church of Christ(a Christian church btw) being on television all day, everyday for nearly a month.

This is something both sides are guilty of but the Republicans have really gone to town with it this year.

As for your ridiculous non-American point. It's very easy to find out where a presidential candidate was born. Shock-horror it was in the US of A.

Edit: And please stop spamming your real estate website.

1) No one has called me. Your assumption failed. Funny thing about assumptions.
2) Do tell, how have YOU verified the birth place of Obama? Did you even bother to watch the video?
3) There is no mention of Real Estate at the blog where I store videos...darn those assumptions, they bite you EVERY time.

[chuckskull]

1) No one has called me. Your assumption failed. Funny thing about assumptions.
2) Do tell, how have YOU verified the birth place of Obama? Did you even bother to watch the video?
3) There is no mention of Real Estate at the blog where I store videos...darn those assumptions, they bite you EVERY time.

A) I said you may not of been directly push-polled, I never assumed you were called. It does not mean you cannot be affected by the lie.

B) You shouldn't assume I didn't. A child being born is a matter of public record, regardless of his future. Your video inspired me to check for myself, something I'm a big fan of; it took about a quarter of the time it took to watch that piece of trash and read your thinly veiled racism.


Confirmed by Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt as genuine.


Raised seal of authenticity

State Registrars stamp.

The whole package

Regardless of this; as Obama has an American mother he is an American citizen. Interestingly McCain was born in Panama Canal, A US Controlled Territory at the time and of course he has American parents too. You're a bit late this party was held in August and has long since been put to bed. Both candidates are eligible to run for the office of president.

C) It's your real estate website. You could just as easily linked to youtube rather than pimping your site.

[MadduckUK]

apparently paddy power are paying out already on an Obama victory.. thats kind of comforting