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    Re: Will they really?

    I would not consider it racist, no. Given the history of the people, the struggle, civil rights, etc, you couldn't really consider a vote for Obama by a black voter because Obama is black to be a racist act.

    Also it's not just about Obama, black Americans tend to vote Democrat, as you know, regardless of the color of the candidate. Therefore a black Democratic candidate is likely to poll very well with black voters.

    Regardless, Obama will get overwhelming support from black Americans, IMO.
    Last edited by Stewart; 05-11-2008 at 12:52 AM.

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    Re: Will they really?

    But since they are a minority (right?), it wouldn't be called that way. Still, I could be wrong on this but I don't quite see black voters who refuses to vote Obama for having a white mother vote for McCain either.

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    Re: Will they really?

    Quote Originally Posted by TooNice View Post
    Well, it is covered in many sources. Perhaps people just mean 'non-white', or black is seen as the dominant colour *Shrug*. Another point about 'racism' suggested about the topic though, is that how many voters within the black community would vote for Obama simply because his skin colour.
    There are a good many white voters who will vote against Obama because they don't want a black president though Probably quite a few more than the number of votes he has won by default for being black.

    I really hope Obama wins this but it pays not to get complacent, judging by what has happened in the past.

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    Re: Will they really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    I would not consider it racist, no. Given the history of the people, the struggle, civil rights, etc, you couldn't really consider a vote for Obama by a black voter because Obama is black to be a racist act. ....
    Well, it seems to me that if someone votes for, or doesn't vote for, a particular candidate on the basis of skin colour, then it's racist. It might have sound historical reasons, but it's racist.

    After all, vote for or not for both Obama and McCain on the basis of their policies, what they stand for, what you think they'll do or the party they represent. But not because of their skin colour.

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    Re: Will they really?

    Regardless, Obama will get overwhelming support from black Americans, IMO.
    Latest exit poll mentioned on the BBC for African American voters:

    Obama 96-97%, McCain 3-4%
    Last edited by Stewart; 05-11-2008 at 01:17 AM.

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    Re: Will they really?

    97% of black voters at an estimate are voting for Obama - is that rascist? (Yes is the answer but it obviously isn't the one alot of people are wanting to hear)

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    Re: Will they really?

    Quote Originally Posted by YorkieBen View Post
    97% of black voters at an estimate are voting for Obama - is that rascist? (Yes is the answer but it obviously isn't the one alot of people are wanting to hear)
    Nothing to do with Obama being the only sane choice then?

    http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/results

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    Re: Will they really?

    Quote Originally Posted by steve threlfall View Post
    Nothing to do with Obama being the only sane choice then?

    http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/results
    traditionally black voters have voted in large numbers for republicans in comparison to now

    If 97% of white voters voted for McCain then the Guardian would be having a fit

    97% of black voters voting for Obama (especially as McCain is a moderate republican) is largely based on race - and that is rascist.

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    Re: Will they really?

    Black voters have traditionally voted Democrat.

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    Re: Will they really?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stewart View Post
    Black voters have traditionally voted Democrat.
    but nowhere near the amount they are this year. Black voters are often more conservative on so called 'moral' issues. The 97% figure of black voters for Obama is due to the ethnicity of Obama. Plain and simple.

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    Re: Will they really?

    I repeat what I said earlier - most black Americans will vote for Obama, and most will do so at least partly because he is black.

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    Re: Will they really?

    thats what everyone is saying - but you are saying that is not racist which I do not understand

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    Re: Will they really?

    Quote Originally Posted by YorkieBen View Post
    traditionally black voters have voted in large numbers for republicans in comparison to now

    If 97% of white voters voted for McCain then the Guardian would be having a fit

    97% of black voters voting for Obama (especially as McCain is a moderate republican) is largely based on race - and that is rascist.
    Read the thread chap

    Stewart has posted about how black people vote democrat.

    I have posted about how the default black votes Obama has landed are more than likely cancelled out by the hick states casting their OMG anyone but a black man vote. You can perhaps argue that Barrack has recieved more votes by default than McCain (highly unlikely imo).

    If a large minority of people casted their vote based purely upon the race of the candidate in question, then yes, the Guardian would be having a fit.

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    Re: Will they really?

    Well, I think it is going to happen regardless. This is the first chance an African American has had to get into the White House, and so, racist or not, African Americans will vote for Obama.

    Perhaps the difference between race loyalty, or racial pride, and simply being racist comes into play.

    Racist or not, it was always going to happen.

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    Re: Will they really?

    Quote Originally Posted by YorkieBen View Post
    but nowhere near the amount they are this year. Black voters are often more conservative on so called 'moral' issues. The 97% figure of black voters for Obama is due to the ethnicity of Obama. Plain and simple.

    There is a significantly higher voter turn out this time around.

    Feel free to convince yourself that 97% of black people have voted for Obama by default, whatever makes you feel better really.

    I am off to bed, hoping for good news tomorrow

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    Re: Will they really?

    Some early results in 103-34 to Obama, so far its looking good for him.

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