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    Guessing passwords = hacking?

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8574259.stm


    It seems guessing someone's facebook password now makes you a hacker.

    Who pays people to write stories like this?!

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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    president of the Society for the Policing of Cyberspace.
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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    OMFG HAXX!!!

    Depends on your definition of hacking. But going with a fairly loose "attempting to bypass a security measure" then yeah, I'd say trying to guess someone elses password just about qualifies. And the article doesn't refer to any of the respondent to the survey as "hackers", it simply describes their activity as "hacking", which (IMNSHO) is a much looser description...

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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    No guessing isn't hacking at all. Which muppet wrote that article?

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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    Well if they all want to use either the name of one of their kids, their pets name or their 'pet name' for their partner as a password then they deserve to be hacked in all honesty.

    I bet 1/2 that information is visable on their facebook page so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to read their profile and have a good guess at their password.

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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    OMFG HAXX!!!

    Depends on your definition of hacking. But going with a fairly loose "attempting to bypass a security measure" then yeah, I'd say trying to guess someone elses password just about qualifies. And the article doesn't refer to any of the respondent to the survey as "hackers", it simply describes their activity as "hacking", which (IMNSHO) is a much looser description...

    And is almost certainly an offence under the computer misuse act. Successfully guessing a password and then using it to cause disruption would be a further (more serious) offence.
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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    OMFG HAXX!!!

    Depends on your definition of hacking. But going with a fairly loose "attempting to bypass a security measure" then yeah, I'd say trying to guess someone elses password just about qualifies. And the article doesn't refer to any of the respondent to the survey as "hackers", it simply describes their activity as "hacking", which (IMNSHO) is a much looser description...




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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    And is almost certainly an offence under the computer misuse act.
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    If you aren't authorised to have access, any method that gets you access is hacking, even watching someone type their password can be classed as this
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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    Of course it's hacking. What are brute exploits if not guessing (repeated lots of times)?
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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    of course its hacking..

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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee @ SCAN View Post
    Well if they all want to use either the name of one of their kids, their pets name or their 'pet name' for their partner as a password then they deserve to be hacked in all honesty.

    I bet 1/2 that information is visable on their facebook page so it doesn't take a rocket scientist to read their profile and have a good guess at their password.
    This. A colleague of mine was off, and we needed to get into her laptop. I just asked what were her sons names, and bingo...I was in...

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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

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    This. A colleague of mine was off, and we needed to get into her laptop. I just asked what were her sons names, and bingo...I was in...
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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    Quote Originally Posted by Singh400 View Post
    This. A colleague of mine was off, and we needed to get into her laptop. I just asked what were her sons names, and bingo...I was in...
    I guess it wasn't her personal laptop, but a corporate one - andf you were authorised to to try it, in which case...

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    they won't.
    yes they will, they already are
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    Re: Guessing passwords = hacking?

    the main stream never got the distinction between hacker and cracker.

    they never will, the word has entered common useage as cracker so it now means that. End of debate.
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