Arrest the Pedo-helping Pope?

[TheAnimus]

So in case you've been ignoring the press, Dawkins & co are at it again, this time saying we need to do something about the veil of secrecy around the Church, and the best way to do that is to prove that even those at the very top, have to answer for their actions.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/com...cle7094757.ece

Now whilst I'm sure Dawkins knows he can't get the pope arrested, he can ensure a lot of often difficult questions will get asked, this is something which I'm am just gob smacked by the response of many Catholics.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/da...-media-frenzy/

So basically its OK to just not bother investigating allegations of complacency in an organisation that has complete exposure to vulnerable children? What the hell!

I would understand if they where specifying how the allegations are un-founded, but to just dismiss them with a religious zeal is incredibly short cited, and I hope won't let them blow over.

If you wittingly help someone get away with child molestation, child after child then you deserve to be punished. It doesn't matter if you where following guidelines laid down by a church or any organisation, you deserve to be tried and punished accordingly.

People such as Damian who authored that questionable blog piece I have to ask them, if they don't want someone to be questioned about such crimes despite evidence they should, it seams your implicitly admitting guilt. I would suggest that anyone who 'stays quiet' on the subject of an innocent child been abused for the sake of an organisation seriously questions that organisation. Because to me, that is clear cut that they are batting for the evil team!

[Andeh13]

It's obscene just how much is being brushed under the carpet, the Catholic church has a lot to answer for these days and something needs to be done about it all. I just cant get over how much of this is being ''allowed'' to s face!

[azrael316]

Now whilst I'm sure Dawkins knows he can't get the pope arrested, !

Why? The Pope has no immunity from arrest in the UK.

[TheAnimus]

Its election time, we all know Catholics are stupid an pro molesting children, many of them are labour fans thanks to Blair been the first catholic PM?

[JPreston]

Why? The Pope has no immunity from arrest in the UK.

Damn straight

It's telling that rather than contest the specific allegations of criminal behaviour by the pope (which are extensively documented and now beyond doubt) the church's response to this is to claim 'diplomatic immunity' for the pope, saying that he is a head of state and so immune to charges. In fact he is no such thing; the Vatican is merely a pseudo-state established by Mussolini which was never granted membership of the UN.

[jimborae]

More chance of Bush & Blair being arrested as war criminals & for crimes against humanity than the Pope being arrested.

[Fraz]

Arrhgghgh. Why can't humanity actually progress into something good, rather than largely following the bewilderingly stupid and inconsistent teachings of ancient and retarded religions led by a bunch of sexually, morally and ethically confused old paedo-morons?!

[badass]

Arrhgghgh. Why can't humanity actually progress into something good, rather than largely following the bewilderingly stupid and inconsistent teachings of ancient and retarded religions led by a bunch of sexually, morally and ethically confused old paedo-morons?!

Because most people are both gullible and thick?
Plus they like meeting up with like simple minded individuals.

[peterb]

Its election time, we all know Catholics are stupid an pro molesting children, many of them are labour fans thanks to Blair been the first catholic PM?

Technically he isn't - he didn't formally convert to Catholocism until after he stood down as Prime Minister - although he had adopted many of the rituals of the Cathlic Church before then, and passed several laws that were opposed by the Cathloic Church in spite of his personal convictions. While I am no admirer of Blair, he did keep his religion out of politics.

[JPreston]

Because most people are both gullible and thick?
Plus they like meeting up with like simple minded individuals.

Atheists would spend more time meeting up with like minded people as well...only we'd have to get the religious to babysit...

[TheAnimus]

well this had quite a few reads in a short space of time!

I have to give some credit to dawkins for actually getting this issue more coverage in the media, the catholic church can not just play the whole we're a religion cover ups are for the greater good card, it is just incredibly wrong.

But as to if we as a nation will act and question this fellow, well I would feel a lot better if I thought there was a cat in hells chance of that.

[MadduckUK]

waiting on fuddam here....

[matty-hodgson]

Urgh, religion, yet another reason to hate it .

waiting on fuddam here....

What for?

[MadduckUK]

cause its about god and ****, he is usually on that like a priest on a choirboy.. wait

[Lucio]

My question is, why on earth would we arrest the Pope? I mean what crime has he personally committed that falls under UK jurisdiction?

Yes, the Catholic Church may have failed to properly police itself, but there's signs that they're learning from this mistake and the people actually responisble for the crimes have mostly been caught and punished. All this event is, is sensationalism from a bunch of people with an axe to grind against organised religion and a lot of you are being pretty sheep-like in following it, instead of asking questions about what the real problem is and whether it's being solved.

[jim]

Technically he isn't - he didn't formally convert to Catholocism until after he stood down as Prime Minister - although he had adopted many of the rituals of the Cathlic Church before then, and passed several laws that were opposed by the Cathloic Church in spite of his personal convictions. While I am no admirer of Blair, he did keep his religion out of politics.

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