Slipping on ice and breaking arm, hospital treatment

[[GSV]Trig]

Being an American, I know that if I went to the hospital like this, I may also have to wait in a waiting room, we do indeed have queues as well, although they may not be as long... it really depends... but the worse part is that at the end, you have a huge bill to pay, hundreds of dollars worth. And potentially hundreds more dollars for any prescriptions you might need.

I think you would've had to spend a few hundred quid to get that cast on her arm in USA.

Off topic I know buit seriously, why dont people in the US want something similar?

[0iD]

As long as it hasn't caused her neck to start clicking, you'll be fine imo

[streetster]

As long as it hasn't caused her neck to start clicking, you'll be fine imo

Haha....I was about to say the same thing

Anyway... for the OP - hope the gf's arm fixes well with no complications...

[Ulti]

Thanks for everyone replies, it really shows how naive I am. Thanks especially for Saracen's detailed reply though for the information given.

Unfortunately it's been 4 days and she still hasn't had an operation yet. Guess the wait continues...

[[GSV]Trig]

Ouch, probably means if its not set back within a certain angle range then they'll ahve to break it again to reset it properly...

[TheAnimus]

Unfortunately it's been 4 days and she still hasn't had an operation yet. Guess the wait continues...

My mother is quite ill, she has a fairly rare (about 50 people in the UK have it) immune system illness, this is clearly stated on her file along with the prof who deals with her. No change to her meds should be made without taking his advice and guidelines.

The NHS offered her New Years Eve, the friday, for her operation.

The prof just laughed, they would be so short staffed, the specialisits diaries were not showing time....

But guess what? The labour waiting list target was hit because they will show that as my mother refusing the operation.

Doesn't matter that the antheatist wouldn't have been available, because he tried to suggest a medication that would have killed her (lukcily the prof over ruled, and demanded someone who has some experiance in this field), but she turned it down.

[megah0]

Just to echo the others really, bed pressures are immense this time of year, lots of fractures and in an elderly person a broken hip is potentially fatal.

I work in a burns, trauma and general intensive care unit as a staff nurse and the past couple of weeks have been incredibly busy, lots of falls and breaks, lots of chest infections and respiratory failures plus all the usual oddments that come through A&E and from the wards.

But in defense of bed managers they have a very important role in saving nurses/doctors ringing round the hospital to find a bed, we already spend a long time unproductively on the phone chasing pharmacy, or blood results or bleeping doctors imagine the time we would waste if we had to ring round each ward trying to secure a bed!

[Cozwin]

Ahh the NHS.

With the grimacing in pain bit, unless you kick off that you are in pain or make a fuss by screaming etc they will just ignore you, my dad went in with apendisitus twice, second time he kicked off a fuss they gave him morphine.

[megah0]

Ahh the NHS.

With the grimacing in pain bit, unless you kick off that you are in pain or make a fuss by screaming etc they will just ignore you, my dad went in with apendisitus twice, second time he kicked off a fuss they gave him morphine.

The first time presumably he expected them to read his mind?

[badass]

But in defense of bed managers they have a very important role in saving nurses/doctors ringing round the hospital to find a bed, we already spend a long time unproductively on the phone chasing pharmacy, or blood results or bleeping doctors imagine the time we would waste if we had to ring round each ward trying to secure a bed!

A decent IT system could do that. Don't you dare mention the NHS IT program that's cost £12 billion and only slightly better than an MS Access database knocked up by a computer studies student in an evening.

[megah0]

A decent IT system could do that. Don't you dare mention the NHS IT program that's cost £12 billion and only slightly better than an MS Access database knocked up by a computer studies student in an evening.

I doubt an IT system can negotiate transfers and more importantly appropriate times to make transfers. Or take into account staffing levels and skill mix.

[Tumble]

Ahh the NHS.

With the grimacing in pain bit, unless you kick off that you are in pain or make a fuss by screaming etc they will just ignore you, my dad went in with apendisitus twice, second time he kicked off a fuss they gave him morphine.

I bet if it wasn't there you'd complain about it too. It's far too easy to take it for granted in this country. The lot of them do a very good job despite the difficulties of funding and staff shortages, and personally, I'd be in a very bad place financially right now if the NHS wasn't here.

[Saracen]

I doubt an IT system can negotiate transfers and more importantly appropriate times to make transfers. Or take into account staffing levels and skill mix.

I used to think an IT system ought to be able to calculate tax bills without getting half wrong, and leaving the other half on a train (okay, I'm taking a bit of a liberty there), but now I'm less confident. Leave transfers to an IT system and it'd probably decide transferring from one ward to another in Canterbury General was best achieved via Stockholm, or Azerbaijan.

[[GSV]Trig]

Nothing wrong with Azerbaijan, mate of mines over there at the mo, its warm, and they have a big flag, the rulers wifes a bit of alright as well apparently

[Spud1]

A decent IT system could do that. Don't you dare mention the NHS IT program that's cost £12 billion and only slightly better than an MS Access database knocked up by a computer studies student in an evening.

Did you know that a number of the problems with the NHS IT system is actually down to the NHS Staff just "browsing the web"?

The biggest complaint that I hear about the current systems is the speed of it, and this is all due to the internal N3 network, over which all NHS traffic is routed - even internet traffic. This is the biggest flaw in their system, they really need to segregate the outbound traffic from the internal stuff, but no, it all goes through the same set of routers and the same network..this is madness.

I work for a company that does a lot of work on some NHS IT systems (around the purchasing side, not GPNet etc) and we encounter this problem regularly..complains around speed due entirely to their staff browsing the net and watching iPlayer. It's fun watching the stats at certain times of the day - slowest at 8-10am, 12-2 and then 5-6pm..but the night staff are just as bad.

Granted some better opimisation of the netcode would help this, reducing the packet sizes etc but at its heart its the infrastructure that's the problem

Yet, despite all this, and all the other issues mentioned in this thread..it's still the best healthcare system in the world (cuba excluded for the moment )

[TheAnimus]

Yet, despite all this, and all the other issues mentioned in this thread..it's still the best healthcare system in the world (cuba excluded for the moment )

Except its not overall, thou it is rather good for serious emergencies.

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

But what is truely shocking is we spend a relative double what singapore spend, and look how much they beat us by!