There's always a bigger man...

[Hicks12]

Police complaint against the "big man" filed. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...ntral-16177725

Interesting, it seems he was trying to get back on the train because his bag was still on there... if you see near the end of the clip another passenger brings out his bag for him! Bloody idiot this student is, regardless you should be able to control yourself, i know many diabetics and never seen them be like that kid .

Violence isnt the answer always but i agree he was right to do it, simply because the student was being abusive and had apparently 5 minutes before the clip even started to explain any real issue (the guy who filmed it was on the tv?) and the "big man" even asked the conductor if he wanted him moved, the guy clearly grabs the student and says move and yet he still doesnt so the guy continues to push him and eventually gets him off the train, the student trys to jump back on and at that point the guy simply uses the student momentum against him, simple really!.

Im sorry but i cant see how we can maintain the, if he wasnt being violent and endangering anyones lives he should have been left to it. Its silly because think of it this way, if someones got an extremely important thing to get to i.e court or something to do with getting custody of their kids or going to a job interview, they're being held up by this idiot and could potentially screw their lives up for good, its not violent but it can have a knock on effect for people.

Hes a dipstick pure and simple, man up and take it on the chin to never be a prat like that again.

[peterb]

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Its silly because think of it this way, if someones got an extremely important thing to get to i.e court or something to do with getting custody of their kids or going to a job interview, they're being held up by this idiot and could potentially screw their lives up for good, its not violent but it can have a knock on effect for people.

Hes a dipstick pure and simple, man up and take it on the chin to never be a prat like that again.

Except it wasn't the student stopping the train, it was the ticket inspector. The student was allegedly drunk and abusive, so the ticket inspector could have walked away and summoned the police to meet the train further down the line. No need to get into an argument, no need to delay to the train, no need for the vigilante action.

[Hicks12]

I agree however for it to be 'fair' the inspector has to give some time for the person to sort it out i.e apologise and rebuy ticket, although in a brilliant situation he would be able to call police and while waiting for them arrive try and sort it out then call them off/away .

Its both of them stopping the train but mainly the student who started it .

[cam1986]

Lets hope the student gets kicked out of college / Uni etc.

[blueball]

Lets hope the student gets kicked out of college / Uni etc.

Why?

[leonkehoe]

Did he deserve to be thrown off the train in such a physical fashion? Probably not, but he should have acknowledged and respected the conductor's requests to leave the train voluntarily before it came to that.

[Dareos]

i had a whole spiel laid out and then clicked off the tab, bollox


anyways, regardless of who THE BIG MAN actually is or his intent, without people like him, Glasgow Airport would have suffered a much worse terrorist attack in 2007. Chav on a train, terrorist with a car full of explosive material, maybe a bit of a jump there, but if you wont stand up to one, would you stand up to the other?

[Dareos]

oh, one thing out of my accidentally deleted spiel that I do remember that I had to post


I had to say Hi to TheAnimus

[melon]

Except it wasn't the student stopping the train, it was the ticket inspector. The student was allegedly drunk and abusive, so the ticket inspector could have walked away and summoned the police to meet the train further down the line. No need to get into an argument, no need to delay to the train, no need for the vigilante action.

Good point, though i suppose he ( student ) could of then got paranoid wondering why he faced so little resistance - assuming he really did lie

Pity there was no way they could record incidents like this on trains to help , then you could prove what he said at the time and simply have the conductor play it cool and replay the evidence for the police.

Regardless of being drunk or not he would still be charged then for a invalid ticket without it escalating nto anything else.

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[kalniel]

"British Transport Police said a 35-year-old man from Stirling had been charged with assault. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-fife-16288101

[roachcoach]

And they wonder why people don't intervene in things more often. Yup, the public fear of prosecution for stepping is completely unjustified. :vomit:

What an utter joke.


This, right here, is why there were riots.

[kalniel]

This, right here, is why there were riots.

Not really. That was more about getting stuff for free and having a laugh.

[Hoonigan]

If that kid gets off with freeloading and Alan gets prosecuted for standing up for everyone on that train, I will be VERY disappointed by this country

Our justice system seriously needs a good old bloody shake, a proper hard throwing about until they realise the difference between "right" and "wrong".

Muslims can kick a woman to pieces and walk out of a court room with "well I was drunk so ermm.. Basically.. I'm allowed to walk free", but a man chucks a passenger off a train because he didn't pay for a ticket and he gets charged.

Pretty annoyed right now!

[kalniel]

Muslims can kick a woman to pieces and walk out of a court room with "well I was drunk so ermm..

No need for such uninformed bigotry Hoonigan. Muslims can't do that any more than any other religious, non-religious or ethnic group.

[[GSV]Trig]

Really, take it you missed that story then?

[kalniel]

Really, take it you missed that story then?

The story which had nothing to do with their religion?