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CAT-THE-FIFTH
If you want to save millions of people there are far better ways to do it rather than spending billions of wars,which usually end up with them storing more hatred towards the west in the future,meaning more wars,etc. Its a never ending cycle and is very profitable.
Billions more towards reducing world hunger,more affordable medicines,better education,etc will save more people each year in reallity.Also,I am suitably qualified to know how chemical and biological agents work too.
But its not so obvious and does not give instant results,so in todays "instant" world a quick war is always a good way for a politican to show they are doing something,and get their political PEEN bolstered. It also makes all of use feel better than we are "helping" too even if in really it is not. It just like people posturing over power consumption of a CPU as them saving the environment, while doing 20000 miles in a car each year.
Spending billions on military escapades in the last 20 years,has not made the world a safer place,especially when the key causes are never tackled as they are politically inconvinient anyway. Most of the conflicts are done for political posturing not for the good of anyone anyway. That includes the dictatorships we supported,wars we waged againts other countries and the toppling of governments which have led to more death.
We could probably help solve a lot of problems in the ME via political moves,but hardly any government has the politcal balls to do it.
Its hypocracy that we cry crocodile tears in Syria while we have hurt so many people in the world by supporting policies that improve our own standard of living or are politically convinient. We even have no right to judge the Russians.
If people want to fund wars in other countries,then how about we open a fund where such people can pledge as much money as they want,and we cut central funding by a similar amount. Sorted.
Or better still we can give them a combat suit and a SA80,a backpack,a one way ticket and they can go gung-ho fighting the good fight.
Did we get involved in Rwanda and other places,nope?
What about the Angoloan civil war where the US backed UNITA,giving them Stingers and the like and Europe allowing weapons shipments to them through its territory. The war only ended after Jonas Savimbi was killed and that might have happened far quicker if we had not supported them,and probably less than the eventual 500000 people would have died too. I lived in another country where tacit western support for a bunch of insurgents lead the war being extended for decades and caused 100000 people to eventually to die,with attrocities in each side.
Its always us helping innocent "rebels" who end always being as bad as the other lot.
Moreover,the rebels also seemed to have used chemical weapons too and this was hushed up. They too have been involved in civilians murders too and are as barbaric as the government lot.
Both sides are equally backward in their attitudes and the ME is full of people who still are living 1000 years ago.
Ultimately all we do when we help,is put another set of tyrants on the throne. Its best we leave them to it so they will have to learn the hard way. Europe did and had TWO world wars which killed 50+ million people in less than 35 years,for it to realise we needed to change.
Where do people think the FSA came from?? Most of them are either ex-SAA or Jihadis anyway,instead of this myth perpuated of a few farmers and school kids armed with bolt action rifles.
They are not and this sort of stuff is perpuated in EVERY war we get involved in.
There was already some spillover from the war in Iraq into Syria anyway,and a number of the Jihadis had been stating for years that they wanted Syria to be an Islamic state.
Moreover,are people that naive?? This war would have ended years ago,if people did not support the Syrian government. This includes Sunnis too.
The problem is the FSA is dominated by religious nutjobs who have been funded for ages by Saudi Arabia and Qatar. There is a political storm in Croatia about them buying hundreds of millions of dollars of weapons which were sent to Syria. You only need to follow the massive threads on websites like militaryphotos and blogs like Brown Moses to see the weapons which have been flowing through for ages.
It appears most of the people fighting for the government are either from his same tribe as el-presedente or people who would rather have a secular dictatorship,with ethnic cohesion than a bunch of religious nutjobs. In fact there was a CBS ot NBC documentary which interviewed people from both sides of the conflicts which was rather interesting.
The war has become sectarian and that was because Saudi Arabia and Qatar made it that way. We back both of those dictat..ahem..kingdoms to the hilt.
We can see how interference worked well in Iran,so much so the US actually had regrets about the 1953 coup it was involved in.
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