Brexit
US Presidential Election
The BBC has half a dozen articles on the front page regarding the US Presidential election in November. Nothing about the Brexit referendum in June.
Sure, Trump and Trump-hate is dominating the US news cycle, but is it really that big of a deal in the UK? Why? And why isn't Brexit?
I was in LA over the weekend and noticed that despite putting in bbc.co.uk, it still had a US bias on the front page articles. Whereas on my phone I got the same front page I would in the UK (I doubt the US care about Port Talbot!).
Accessing the BBC website from outside the UK has always redirected to bbc.com, and stuffed a few ads in there too.Originally Posted by Gerrard
Personally I'm probably more concerned about the US elections, but that might be at least partly related to how bored I am with the mudslinging and misinformation going on re: Brexit.
Brexit, by far. The US presidential elections is just the usual clown show, it just happens that on this one, one potential candidate is the king of the clowns, ultimately US politics is dictated by Congress as a whole and it'll be no more or less corrupt after the presidential elections, and wont be until anti-corruption congressmen secure a majority.
Brexit, on the other hand, could have global implications if Britain goes its own way.
Brexit, simply because I have a vote. I don't have any vote in the US Presidential elections. America will get the President they deserve, because all the candidates are (imnsho) pretty lacklustre.
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The BBC have always been obsessed with America.
For example next time you watch a BBC documentary pay attention to how the locations are given. They might go to Chennai, India and then move to Houston, Texas. Not Houston, USA or Houston, Texuas, USA but just Houston, Texas. It's taken for granted that the audience knows all the states in the US but can't place a major city in India.
Id probably have to say the us even though the EU referendum is coming up in the UK, it seems like the us is doomed whoever wins and subsequently the world
Which is "more important" and "to you".
That sort-of depends how you look at it.
On the "to me" bit, I agree with Peterb .... Brexit, because I have a vote. Also, because whoever, and which party, holds the US presidency doesn't have much direct impact on my life, whereas the Brexit vote could have significant direct impact. And, further to that, which I care about more is certainly Brexit. I subscribe to aidanjt's point about clowns, and the notion of the King of Clowns in the Oval would be excruciatingly hilarious if it wasn't starting to look like it just might happen. The notion of the Donald being the one that gets to say "launch" distinctly reduces the comedy factor.
Somehow, the notion of getting obliterated in a nuclear holocaust, or perhaps worse, living in the glowing remains of whatever survives, has great potential to ruin my whole day. Which dents the lolz factor of a Trump presidency.
Which leads me to conclude that, in a narrow sense, the US election might be "more important to me". After all, while an independent UK free of the EU sounds great, it takes the edge off if that idiot was da Pres. It's not just nukes, either. The idea of him running the world's major economy, or overseeing sensitive diplomatic talks just .... makes me shudder.
So, if it's a choice of UK out but Pres Trump, or UK in EU and someone that isn't an absolute <rudeword> in the Whitehouse ..... ummmm. Would not getting out of the EU be worth it? Not that there's a causal link between the two, but if I could wave a magic wand and get one, but only one, which would I pick?
Which is "more important to me"?
Why not ask an easy question, like, oh .... what the exact nature of dark matter is, and a simple yet complete explanation for quantum mechanics.
The trade off being, of course, that the US Presidential election isn't really much of a choice, the alternative to one clown is another. Brexit, on the other hand, does seem to be a choice that will have an effect on the future of Britain.
Well, quite. It's not so much about the king of clowns. It's more about picking which clown, from a whole circus of them.
I'm actually glad I don't have a vote because I've no clue how to select the least worst from an absolute cesspit of bottom-scrapings. I mean, I don't want to demean your country, Tee Pee, but from 320m alternatives, or whatever the population is these days, could you lot really not find anyone better than them that's actually willing to do the job? Nobody? Really?
A bit of a damning indictment of the system, then.
The system is indeed, utterly broken. I'm sure I have no need to mention to you of all people the inevitable failings of a FPTP voting system!Well, quite. It's not so much about the king of clowns. It's more about picking which clown, from a whole circus of them.
I'm actually glad I don't have a vote because I've no clue how to select the least worst from an absolute cesspit of bottom-scrapings. I mean, I don't want to demean your country, Tee Pee, but from 320m alternatives, or whatever the population is these days, could you lot really not find anyone better than them that's actually willing to do the job? Nobody? Really?
A bit of a damning indictment of the system, then.
Gary Johnson would be my choice of current candidates, and of course 99% of Americans have never heard of him.
I would never vote for him, but I am starting to enjoy Trump. Not because of his stated positions, which are largely reprehensible, but the fact that he is such a great manipulator of the media. People mock him for suggesting that he would make Mexico pay for a wall, but he has so far managed to make the media pay for his Presidential bid. So far, he's spent less than a quarter that of his current rival Ted Cruz, and a sixth of what Hilary has spent on the Democratic nomination.
A great example of this kind of manipulation happened this week with his comments on Abortion. He hit the headlines with a statement that if Abortion were made illegal, then women who had abortions should face punishment. So the left start screaming about how banning abortion is wrong, the right spew the usual right-to-life idiocy. He follows up by giving statements and interviews and flip flopping all over the place, including stating that the law should stay as it stands. Each thing he says gets another headline. A lot of the moderates see that this is as pro-choice as a Republican candidate can ever get, meanwhile the views of his opposition are also exposed: Abortion and Contraception ban under all circumstances and life imprisonment or death for the woman involved.
He has himself positioned as the reasonable Republican candidate, and makes it look like the whole thing wasn't planned that way from the start. I'm actually excited to see what happens when he is running against Hillary. He's certainly a Clown, but at root they are entertainers!
My prediction is a brokered convention which selects a very unpopular candidate and Hillary walks away with the General (In her own oversized clown-shoes).
I certainly never thought I'd be looking back at the shrub presidency with nostalgia.
both are important and both could have some potentially awful results. the news reflects what they consider newsworthy events of a particular time, and in the last few hours there hasn't been anything particularly new and newsworthy to report on brexit whilst there is about the US elections. many people are concerned about the possibility of trump in particular being leader of the US and will be interested in that news. the US has a great affect on the UK and the rest of the world. i wouldn't say any of the candidates were great in the slightest but he appears to be by far the worst
both trump in charge and a brexit concern me. both together is a great concern
No love for the local government elections in May then guys? Not as glamorous, but potentially more directly affecting, depending on where you live.
I'm torn on the US election - particularly Trump. He's obviously an amazing salesman, and I can't help but wonder how much of his campaign is pure marketing BS. He's also obviously not an imbecile, and I suspect he's got the nous to make a decent job of being president. My problem is I don't feel like I have any real handle on what he actually stands for or what his policies would be once in the Whitehouse. I'm just sure that he's far too canny to think the rest of the world will lap up the act he's putting on for the folks at home.
As to "Brexit" (I hate that term), I'm sure it'll come as no real surprise to anyone to know them I'm strongly in the "stay in" camp. And a big part of that is because I've yet to hear a single cogent argument that supports leaving the EU. My biggest worry about Brexit is that it'll end up being on vote on whether the UK should be in the EU, rather than whether the UK should leave the EU. And those are two very different propositions...
I can't see that the GOP has any decent candidates left now. I susopect that most will hold there noses and vote for Hilary.
Trump is more moderate than the nutter Cruz
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2016-35703300
Society's to blame,
Or possibly Atari.
Yep, Standing for Council myself.
Society's to blame,
Or possibly Atari.
kalniel (06-04-2016)
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