Unofficial Hexus Brexit Straw Poll - In, Out, Undecided?

[SeriousSam]

Do you want the kittens to support remain or leave? I'm sure I can work out something for either camp...

Clearly they will be "leave"... that way we will be able to negotiate better deals with string manufacturers who are outside the EU

[virtuo]

Clearly they will be "leave"... that way we will be able to negotiate better deals with string manufacturers who are outside the EU

Most catnip (the "good stuff") is grown inside Europe though, would they want to put that at risk? They'd be banking on a decent trade deal with Asia. I 'd say it was 50/50.

[The Hand]

More generally, my real concern about voting remain is that, whilst we'll technically remain a member of the EU, we'll completely fail to take part in the EU - we'll continue tiptoeing around the edges. We're like one of those people who goes to a night club then stands in a corner nursing a pint and complaining that the music's too loud and they never play the good songs. We need to put the pint down and start dancing, frankly.

Sounds like you've clocked me on a night out!

[TooNice]

But i'm not sure how much difference it's going to make.

There is still that pretty significant undecided group (I suppose that they may just opt on not voting at all). But it also makes me wonder if there is a common demographic amongst the undecided.

[scaryjim]

Sounds like you've clocked me on a night out!

There's a night club in Lincoln now?!??!

I knew a lot of those people when I was at Uni. Always wondered why they went to the club in the first place. Then when they finally threw themselves into it they really enjoyed it.

[SeriousSam]

Most catnip (the "good stuff") is grown inside Europe though, would they want to put that at risk? They'd be banking on a decent trade deal with Asia. I 'd say it was 50/50.

The best Nepeta cataria comes from Asia, high up in the mountains

[The Hand]

There's a night club in Lincoln now?!??!

I knew a lot of those people when I was at Uni. Always wondered why they went to the club in the first place. Then when they finally threw themselves into it they really enjoyed it.

Yea, Lincoln has entered the 90's! Just when nightclubs are going out of fashion!

Apparently a Guardian/ICM poll put the "Leave" vote at 6 points ahead..

BBC Poll of polls here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-36271589

[OilSheikh]

Peasants R US....

[peterb]

More generally, my real concern about voting remain is that, whilst we'll technically remain a member of the EU, we'll completely fail to take part in the EU - we'll continue tiptoeing around the edges. We're like one of those people who goes to a night club then stands in a corner nursing a pint and complaining that the music's too loud and they never play the good songs. We need to put the pint down and start dancing, frankly.

So don't go the night club where you are ignored and go and do something else that is more rewarding!

[opel80uk]

Massive, massive fillip for the leave campaign with the Sun backing leave, and they don't often back the wrong horse. I got 10/1 on it being a Leave vote only 9 months ago, and now you can only get 11/8. Momentum is definitely with the leave side, and the remain has been woeful – they have not been able to coherently rebut a lot of the misinformation from the Leave side, and they have appeared disjointed and badly organised. I am convinced it will be a Leave vote. I think it'll be a pity for Britain, but that will tempered by the fact that I'll be quids in. Every cloud and all that.

[kompukare]

...I think it'll be a pity for Britain, but that will tempered by the fact that I'll be quids in...

Did you overboard with your bet? Pity I didn't think of that but it might have had to be a very big bet to get over the price instabilities we can expect over the next few months.

[opel80uk]

Did you overboard with your bet? Pity I didn't think of that but it might have had to be a very big bet to get over the price instabilities we can expect over the next few months.

It was a big enough bet. But 10/1 was just too long to pass up; there was no way, even back when I placed it that there was 10 in 1 chance of a Brexit vote. Too many lumped on remain thinking it was money for nothing.

[Corky34]

Massive, massive fillip for the leave campaign with the Sun backing leave, and they don't often back the wrong horse.

The Sun certainly has a chequered history, what was their headline after Hillsborough? Maybe they're backing leave because of what their owner once said...

I once asked Rupert Murdoch why he was so opposed to the European Union. 'That’s easy,' he replied. 'When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.'

[scaryjim]

tbh, I'm not sure the Sun's stance will have that much impact - it might persuade a few more Out voters to actually go to the polls; I doubt it'll seriously persuade many genuinely floating voters. Sun readers generally fall into the demographics that are likely to vote Out anyway; strikes me as being as much a marketing ploy as a genuine statement of position.

[DanceswithUnix]

Interesting article on the Canadian trade agreement. Makes me wonder if this is the quality of European trade agreements (one of the supposed plus points of staying in) then is there really any point?

http://arstechnica.co.uk/tech-policy...ip-what-is-it/

[opel80uk]

tbh, I'm not sure the Sun's stance will have that much impact - it might persuade a few more Out voters to actually go to the polls; I doubt it'll seriously persuade many genuinely floating voters. Sun readers generally fall into the demographics that are likely to vote Out anyway; strikes me as being as much a marketing ploy as a genuine statement of position.

It's more the other way round; the Sun tends to be pretty good at positioning itself on the side of whose winning, as opposed to them influencing the outcome. If I was in the remain camp, I'd be very worried about that endorsement.

The Sun certainly has a chequered history, what was their headline after Hillsborough? Maybe they're backing leave because of what their owner once said...

Don't get me wrong, i've never bought the Sun and I think it's a rag, but there is a reason why Murdoch is courted so much.