RUMOURS : Intel Arc (and Optane) cancelled.

[Apex]

[Xlucine]

The A770 is basically a 3070ti in terms of cost (same die area, a few more transistors, and the same memory bandwidth). It'll be very interesting to see how it shakes up against that if it actually arrives at retail.

Reports are that intel has also "launched" the A310 - personally, that's quite interesting to me. I'm looking for a half height HDMI 2.0 adapter, hopefully intel will price this to give some competition to the GT1030. Intel drivers might be rough, but they'll probably give more support than a 5 year old card still being sold new

[Saracen999]

Just watched Jayz video and, have to say, looks interesting. Usual caveat, as Jayz stressed .... pinch of salt about Intel performance charts because it's under very specific conditions so wait for independent 3rd party tests, once drivers are out.

So we have pretty (IMHO) cards, pricing at a very competitive level and some suggestive performance claims.

It would be nice if the "cancelled" rumours this thread started at were completely debunked by Intel, officially and categorically, as to future generations. Maybe they hae been - truth be told these cards aren't where my attention is so I could easily have missed said rumour debunking.

I really hope Intel can make a go of these, and future generations/high end cards if only to have the 800lb gorilla in the room keep the smaller primates more honest. Not that I think Intel = consumer champion or anything but, it'll sure focus minds in other companies if they going going to attempt to kick sand in nVidia's GPU face, with AMD already looking interesting too.

If so, even more interesting times coming down the tracks .... assuming we can still afford to more than heat and still eat by then, of course.

[Kovoet]

I will be getting the 770 when out.

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[cptwhite_uk]

A770 needs to be £300, A750 needs to be £260 for them to make sense against the RX 6600 (£260) / RX 6700 XT (£335) / RTX 3060 (£330). They also consume more power. Unfortunately they miss the mark. Had they released in March, it might have been a different story and they could've charged more, but in the current (buyers) market, it's falls short of what is required for me to consider them.

[ik9000]

A770 needs to be £300, A750 needs to be £260 for them to make sense against the RX 6600 (£260) / RX 6700 XT (£335) / RTX 3060 (£330). They also consume more power. Unfortunately they miss the mark. Had they released in March, it might have been a different story and they could've charged more, but in the current (buyers) market, it's falls short of what is required for me to consider them.

I don't think you can call it a buyers market when NVidia are setting sky-high prices and, going from threads elsewhere, enough clowns are willing to spank £2k on the 4000 series to let NVidia feel happy about their pricing!

[cptwhite_uk]

Well, I guess it's all a matter of perspective, stock is available and prices have halved in the last 6 months, so from that perspective I'd argue it is.

Intel need to price their products in line with the value available from their competitors, and it seems they're not going to be able to match the value that AMD can offer in the £250-£350 space. The RX 6600 beats them on price, and the RX 6700 beats them on power usage, vRAM capacity and performance (note I meant to say RX 6700, not RX 6700 XT in my original comment).

It's a decent enough 1st effort, and I welcome a 3rd player, but I will be voting with my wallet, and they need to do better to win my money.

[kompukare]

I don't think you can call it a buyers market when NVidia are setting sky-high prices and, going from threads elsewhere, enough clowns are willing to spank £2k on the 4000 series to let NVidia feel happy about their pricing!

Yes, but for launch that is all very well but how will Nvidia and their shareholders feel once they more-money-than-sense (sorry, the "because I'm worth it" crowd in case I offend them!) have bought and sales volume is down 40% or so?

Perf/watt and perf/area are pretty dire for Intel Arc and that's only with DX12.

DX9 vs DX12 is crazy:

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Although even with the games in their suite, there are some outliners where ARC performs worse than a RTX 3050 like Dota 2:

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I collated reviews here:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/th...read.18959862/

If you watch the DF video,RT performance seems about RTX3060TI level,so its quite clear driver performance is the problem. Considering a lot of driver development was in Russia according to Charlie over on SemiAccurate,it would explain the performance inconsistencies.

[[GSV]Trig]

Yeah I heard somewhere that a load of the dev team were in Russia, as you say, that would explain a lot...

Still, given this is all pretty new to Intel (excluding the crappy on-chip stuff and legacy stuff from 20+ years ago) is it really that bad really as a first attempt?

[Xlucine]

[DanceswithUnix]

Sounds like Intel now have a DX9 driver, so older games are a lot faster:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/...-in-old-games/