Schumacher

[Chemical_Ali]

now thats just bad luck - ive worked my body to wake me up just as match of the day starts on a saturday evening after a few beers

lol was my fault i got too comfy waiting for it and i was dead sleepy anyway i couldnt help it. i hate missing grand prix live. i have to work during sundays and the bloody news on the radio spoils all the results for me cuz my manager wont let me turn it off

they got the highlights showing on itv4 today at 3:50 am in the morning and i aint going to bed!! i wanna see how shumacher managed to finish 5th place starting from the pits, its impossible to overtake at monaco (besides pitsstops) so it should be interesting!

[htid]

Apparently not impossible, as you shall see

[Chemical_Ali]

Apparently not impossible, as you shall see

couldnt help it i fell asleep

[johnny02004976]

tbh he did drive well - although, u cant really not drive well when your car is simply better than the guys infront of you; Toro Rosso, Midland etc

and he did get lucky with some of the guys infront of him dropping out towards the end; Raikonnen, Trulli, Webber etc

[Steve A]

Tbh, i think he should be docked all points, lets face it, its not the first time he has done something like that. he is a bad sportmans and no doubt he would have lost alot of respect from his fellow drivers after that act, and rightfully so ..

Regards

[Koolpc]

Tbh, i think he should be docked all points, lets face it, its not the first time he has done something like that. he is a bad sportmans and no doubt he would have lost alot of respect from his fellow drivers after that act, and rightfully so ..

Regards

I agree totally.

[Nick F]

I agree totally.

He may have bent the rules but he is still a fantastic driver

[Steve A]

Im not disputing the fact he is a good driver, but my opinion still stands, he should be made an example of, as the next driver to do that will probably get much worse punishment, which would be totally unfair ..

[Parm]

It applies to most great sportsmen I think.

Maradona may have scored with his hand, he may have turned into a cocaine addict, had a few fights on the pitch. But, who can deny the fact that he was a truly gifted footballer?

Mike Tyson may have been to jail, rightfully or wrongly accused who knows, he may have bit some guys ear in a title fight. But, who can deny the fact that he was a truly gifted boxer?

Michael Schumacher has had his moments of craziness. But, who can deny that he is a truly gifted driver?

[jagster]

Im not disputing the fact he is a good driver, but my opinion still stands, he should be made an example of, as the next driver to do that will probably get much worse punishment, which would be totally unfair ..

totally agree with this, if one driver can get away with this the FIA must let all drivers get away with it!

[Parm]

I wouldn't say that Schumacher got away with it though.

What he did was so cleverly disguised, there's no real way to prove that he was cheating.
For the officials to make the decision to send the biggest name in Formula 1 to the back of the grid in the most prestigious race of the season was no small decision. I personally thought it took a lot of courage from them just to dish out that much of a punishment.

[jagster]

he wouldnt of got any punishment at all if all the other teams didnt go to bernie ekleston complaining of what he did, so the FIA check the onboard computer specs and they were all wrong for the corner showing he was in control of the car AT ALL TIMES, and allthough he did get put to the back of the grid, he should of had a 2 race ban, to show this cannot be tollorated. if he had a faster can than everyone to get him so high up the grid then why was he willing to risk everyting just to make sure he had pole!!

[Clunk]

It applies to most great sportsmen I think.

Maradona may have scored with his hand, he may have turned into a cocaine addict, had a few fights on the pitch. But, who can deny the fact that he was a truly gifted footballer?

Mike Tyson may have been to jail, rightfully or wrongly accused who knows, he may have bit some guys ear in a title fight. But, who can deny the fact that he was a truly gifted boxer?

Michael Schumacher has had his moments of craziness. But, who can deny that he is a truly gifted driver?

truly great sportsmen dont cheat. cheats cheat, and truly great sportsmen dont need to.

[Steve A]

Yes, i agree that it took a certain amount of courage, however if they were willing to do this then they must have had enough evidence that he did "cheat" , and to be fair i think he got of lightly .. i think that was much worse than BAR getting banned for 2 matches for a techincal fault or what ever it was last season ...

[shiato storm]

i haven;t bothered to read the entirely to this thread, neither did I see what happened in the pre-race or race itself. but what I do know is that shumacher is one of the most talented drivers in F1, of the number of races he's done and compared to the numbers of infringments you;ll see he's had a pretty good run of things. yes some of his 'accidents' were not entirely sportsman like I'd agree, and all to often I get the impression when the F1 race committee come down on them (ferrari and shumacher) its more often than not because some new bit of technology that the other desginers haven't thought of is being used. some times I can't get why its always ferrari being penalised at the moment but it is. in fact they're almost being penalised for their innovation, much like teams have in the past - honda, renault...they've all had it done because the cars produced are more advanced than the other teams. yet they make rules that effectively level the playing field which is crap. if an athlete trains twice as hard and twice as long surely he deserves to beat the one that sits on the sofa all day doing nothing? the committee is stifilng the sport and advancement of the cars by including tons of rules left right and centre.
and when the rules are made in terms of drving its often only after a driver does something to cause upsets to others. I personally prefer if it were more cut-throat and including so many rules is a bit like all this health and safety malarky...
i can't defend what I haven't seen and given shumacher's illustrious history I'll bet its quite borderline, but without drivers like him who else is pushing the boundries and testing the water as far as they can go? he is a good driver, questionable at times, but you cant argue with the vast number of victories he has gained over his time in the sport.

[RVF500]

This is the reason i don't like F1, too much cheating going on, much prefer MotoGP and Superbike racing, the riders there have such respect for each other

There is some cheating in GPs both Marco Malandri and Loris Caprossi have deliberatelycrashed into rivals to win 250 championships. A la Senna and Prost. Marco didn't win as it turned out. Takes more balls to do it on 2 wheels. Rossi's team were cought out trying to lay down more rubber on the start line to help him of the grid a bit quicker. But it's nowhere near like F1. And even when rivals such as Rossi and Biaggi loathe each other there is still a huge amount of respect. Same with Foggy and well just about anyone except Jim Whittam in superbikes.

Personally I prefer the bikes because the racing is closer, more exciting (imo) and more hard fought plus I have my own race prepped CBR600 so I relate a little more.

Anyone who saw Schumacher crashing, looking in his mirror for Damon Hill and blatently steerin into him to 'win' the championship. Followed by the celebration at trackside when he realised he had managed to put Hill out of the race cannot possibly label him as anything but a cheat.