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    I am going to try Vista. Might aswell seeing i will be getting it for free!! My mates daughters boyfriend works for Microsoft and has promised us a Vista each when they come out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex
    random problems, glitches, bugs, etc
    Most of which will be present on Windows x32 as well


    the reasonably large number of games that won't install.
    As I said, games with 16-bit installers are the only ones I can think of... and no one plays those nowadays anyway even Starforce have released 64-bit drivers now, so all their games are playable. Which other games do you know of?


    random garbage sound on HL2 on Audigy 2 ZS as an example.
    Had Source Engine sound problems with my old Audigy and old onboard before that too... on XP Pro 32-bit. Like I said before, of course there will be bugs, but not considerably more than on 32-bit counter-parts

    I have played the following games extensively on XP x64, and all work flawlessly (or with minor bugs which would be present on 32-bit systems too):

    All Source-based games*
    Battlefield 2
    F.E.A.R.
    UT2004*
    Far Cry*
    CMR 2005
    Pariah
    Freelancer
    Quake 4
    NFSU2
    Dawn Of War

    *Native x64 versions availble for free!

    And probably a whole load more so gaming compatiblity is certainly not a point to use to put people off XP x64. If anything, I find the lacklustre driver support for peripherals the most problematic issue with this OS... but even this can be avoided if you take time to research and chose your peripherals
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5lab
    £210 for the top version isnt much for something that'll keep going for 5 years tbh
    $399=£210? I don't think so.

    XP Pro Sp2 prices:
    Amazon.com (US) - $247.99
    Amazon.co.uk (UK) - £247.99

    So Vista Ultimate will set you back £400.

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    several games (e.g. doom3, vampire bloodlines) do a simple naive check for which OS you're installing on, and bail out on xp x64. you can get around it, sure, but it's a pain.

    as for your list, the common feature seems to be that you don't play anything even vaguely old - some of us occasionally re-play the classics, and xp x64 fails at this.

    as you state, driver support is a bigger issue (trying to get a bluetooth headset going gave me a migrane), but saying that there are no gaming issues is simply false

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    So Amazon are setting Vista pricing? Perhaps someone should tell MS.

    Want to know what it'll really cost in the UK? Then wait and few months
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    Quote Originally Posted by directhex
    ...but saying that there are no gaming issues is simply false
    I didn't say that...

    Quote Originally Posted by Sumanji
    Like I said before, of course there will be bugs, but not considerably more than on 32-bit counter-parts


    Quote Originally Posted by directhex
    as for your list, the common feature seems to be that you don't play anything even vaguely old - some of us occasionally re-play the classics, and xp x64 fails at this.
    A lot of old 16-bit games don't work on XP either. "To embrace the future we must sometimes sacrifice the past" or something like that if you are really into retro gaming you should have an old system that boots Windows 95 or something?

    Back OT, just don't expect Vista to support your vast library of retro games
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangel
    So Amazon are setting Vista pricing? Perhaps someone should tell MS.

    Want to know what it'll really cost in the UK? Then wait and few months
    MS sets Vista pricing, and allows retailers very thin margins. Amazon isn't exactly a cowboy outfit, they're specifying the price that MS has told them.

    If you think that it won't be $1=£1 for the price here you're obviously an incurable optimist.

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    nar i will stick with XP for another year or two, hopefully the price will have dropped by then....

    i tried the beta when it came out, i liked the chess game

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    ill get it, but i won't pay for it. MS have gotta be on drugs if they think thats a fair price.

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    Meh.. i'll wait till, as people have said, techies figure out the main bugs and when SP1 comes out, i'll consider it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by charleski
    MS sets Vista pricing, and allows retailers very thin margins. Amazon isn't exactly a cowboy outfit, they're specifying the price that MS has told them.

    If you think that it won't be $1=£1 for the price here you're obviously an incurable optimist.
    Optimism has nothing to do with it - it's as simple as MS not being able to sell a product at 400quid in the UK. Prices are market led and I think _you're_ being very optimistic about 400quid flying well with _any_ OS buyer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dangel
    it's as simple as MS not being able to sell a product at 400quid in the UK.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Office-Mac-P...TF8&s=software
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Office-Profe...TF8&s=software
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/VStudio-Pro-...TF8&s=software
    Last edited by directhex; 31-08-2006 at 10:01 AM.

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