u know what i think u might be right, it might be a good idea to try another brand, the thing i like like with xfx is the warranty, u can overclock with it and it wont void, but i suppose that if i don't like the scan branded one then i can just send it back and get the extra money and go with the xfx, as for ati, i have nothing against them, my first ever graphics card i bought was a radeon 9250, but because my motherboard is a Nvidia chipset i want to stay with them because i will always have the option to add another card if i want, btw ur help has been awesome so far