GTX 560 ti

[Mc808]

On the Frozr III you can start hearing the fan at around 70% speed, under full load mine has yet to get above 55% speed and 65 degrees.

Theres a review for the MSI 560 ti frozr 2 here on HEXUS :

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=29469

Thanks, the review says it would be easy to further OC the card, what would that do to the warranty?

[Ferral]

I believe MSI covers overclocking as long as it is within the limits provided by the AfterBurner software. Anyone else know a bit more though, it does state all over the boxes for the Frozr cards that they are designed for OC. The MSI cards also come with their own Overclocking software Afterburner on a disc in the box.

[Mc808]

Good to know, I don't want to OC it then void warranty.

[kalniel]

I think it's one of those where they warn you that OCing can damage the card. OCing itself with the software wouldn't be a cause for warranty voiding provided the card failure wasn't caused by the OCing, but if the damage was specifically caused by an action they warned you about it probably wouldn't be covered.

I strongly doubt you will have any problems though, if you have a quality PSU and you don't overvolt.

[Mc808]

Speaking on PSU, hows this: http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-...-12v-120mm-fan

[Ferral]

For an extra few pound you can get an Antec Truepower 750 Watt Modular :

http://www.scan.co.uk/products/750w-...-120mm-pwm-fan

This is the supply I bought and am very impressed with it, very quiet and reliable

[Mc808]

Just when I thought I had made up my mind, I suppose 750w would give me more room for the future.

[Ferral]

Thats why I opted for a 750 Watt, just give a bit extra to future proof my machine, extra £4 is nothing when spending that much already. I was actually going to get that same Corsair one initially before settling with the Antec.

A 650 Watt is bare minimum needed for a 560 so at least a 750 gives you the headroom later down the line. My system started with an EVGA 560ti Superclocked but it had faulty VRam so had to RMA it, got the MSI GTX 570 Frozr III to replace it. MSI card is much better quality. Having the 750 Watt supply gave me the room I needed for the replacement VGA card.

[Mc808]

Which of the cables are always attached and which are modular on the Antec?

[kalniel]

Geez ferral! Stop listening to the marketing speak! 650W is massive overkill for a 560ti.

Now, it depends on the rest of the system, but a typical total system draw with a 560ti is 160W (ie most of the time), ~315W loaded.

If you have a 650W power supply then it's not even 50% loaded at max draw, and will spend most of it's life at 25%, which isn't as efficient. Take that to 750W and it's even worse. Ideally you'd want around a 450-500W supply, no more.

[Ferral]

The modular cables are literally just the PCIE power, there are extra cables included for 8 pin power, molex and SATA. All the usual, same as a standard PSU are attached directly. Theres a review at Johny Guru for it :

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php...Story&reid=140

I have had problems with builds in the past with PSU and power usage, hence why I go for recommended now, make sure that I have enough for everything in my system. A lot of it depends on what is drawing power in your system at any given time, granted not everything is being used all at once. However I am a firm believer when it comes to recommended PSU, its one thing that you dont skimp on in your system.

[Mc808]

Thinking about it, I know 650W is sort of overkill so a 750W PSU would be a waste. I think I'll get the 650W. Thanks for the advice though, you're a great help.

[Ferral]

Yeah its cool, I'm old school when it comes to system building, tend to go for overkill! Been doing it for so long now. Started with the old 486 machines with the ISA cards that had IDE controllers on them and literally Windows 3 had just been launched. I'm kind of set in my ways! We all do things our own way and have different ways of doing things, thats what makes HEXUS a great community

It was just a suggestion with the 750 Watt. The 650 Corsair will be fine, modular PSU's are decent kit regardless as long as you get branded (which you have) you will have no issues.

[kalniel]

Yeah its cool, I'm old school when it comes to system building, tend to go for overkill! Been doing it for so long now. Started with the old 486 machines with the ISA cards that had IDE controllers on them and literally Windows 3 had just been launched. I'm kind of set in my ways! We all do things our own way and have different ways of doing things, thats what makes HEXUS a great community

Nah, that's not overkill. Overkill was us adding an 80287 co-processor to our 286 AT - it enabled the realistic mode for Grand Prix Buying a soundcard just to get a CD-ROM interface wasn't so bad

[Mc808]

Nah, that's not overkill. Overkill was us adding an 80287 co-processor to our 286 AT - it enabled the realistic mode for Grand Prix Buying a soundcard just to get a CD-ROM interface wasn't so bad

That's so old school I had to Google what it is.

[vicedens2002]

How about Asus 1GB GeForce GTX 560 Ti DirectCU II TOP - http://www.scan.co.uk/products/1gb-a...84-cores-mhdmi

Is this card not any better than the MSI one ?

Speaking about the PSU.. Hos is Antec 650w truepower plus - http://www.scan.co.uk/products/650w-...eps-12v-quiet-