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    Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Hey all,

    Looking for a little upgrade. I mainly play games which seem to be more optimised for NVIDIA based cards, Assassins Creed, Battlefield, ARMA games, Tomb Raider, Crysis etc.

    I am not a heavy gamer but mainly play those above

    Options:

    Powercolor Turbo R9 280
    Palit GTX 760
    KFA2 GTX 760

    Mainly looking at that £145 Palit one.

    Yay or ney? It's mainly because from benchmarks the GTX 760 is tied with the HD 7970 Ghz HERE. It's been optimised since then so no doubt it'll be better than my 7870 anyway.


    Thoughts? It looks very scrummy for the money a bit ugly looking yes.


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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    I'm not 100% sure, but i'll try to chime in with some (hopefully) ok comment Out of the 760 or the 280x i would go with the 280x personally, with mantle aswell with your Amd rig. But i think that the Gpu you have now is no slouch! That would be around the 270 performance i think for a 7870, i think you have quite a nice balanced system with that Gpu in your rig at the minute aswell! so i think you should have 3 choice Keep your 7870 for the time being and save your mullah, a 280x or a 760

    I'd be looking at either keeping the 7870 for a bit longer or the 280x

    I hope it helps! I haven't had much sleep (at all) today so im probably incoherent... not that i'm not usually...

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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo01 View Post
    Hey all,

    Looking for a little upgrade. I mainly play games which seem to be more optimised for NVIDIA based cards, Assassins Creed, Battlefield, ARMA games, Tomb Raider, Crysis etc.

    I am not a heavy gamer but mainly play those above

    Options:

    Powercolor Turbo R9 280
    Palit GTX 760
    KFA2 GTX 760

    Mainly looking at that £145 Palit one.

    Yay or ney? It's mainly because from benchmarks the GTX 760 is tied with the HD 7970 Ghz HERE. It's been optimised since then so no doubt it'll be better than my 7870 anyway.


    Thoughts? It looks very scrummy for the money a bit ugly looking yes.


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    Emm?? Crysis 3,BF4 and TR and AMD optimised games.

    I think you should just stick with what you have ATM.

    If anything your CPU is going to be more a bottleneck for ARMA3 than your graphics card. It is a poorly optimised game at best,but has always done better on Intel CPUs.

    You should have stuck with your Core i7 for ARMA3 and BF4 MP TBH,although luckily BF4 has Mantle meaning you might be OK there for MP games.

    Edit!!

    That Palit uses a reference cooler. I would not touch a GTX760 using a reference cooler with a bargepole. HT4U did extended tests on the reference GTX760 and it had massive throttling problems.


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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfish View Post
    I'm not 100% sure, but i'll try to chime in with some (hopefully) ok comment Out of the 760 or the 280x i would go with the 280x personally, with mantle aswell with your Amd rig. But i think that the Gpu you have now is no slouch! That would be around the 270 performance i think for a 7870, i think you have quite a nice balanced system with that Gpu in your rig at the minute aswell! so i think you should have 3 choice Keep your 7870 for the time being and save your mullah, a 280x or a 760

    I'd be looking at either keeping the 7870 for a bit longer or the 280x

    I hope it helps! I haven't had much sleep (at all) today so im probably incoherent... not that i'm not usually...
    Thanks the Powercolor one is actually an R9 280, not the 280x so not sure how that performs compared to it. My 7870 is nice yeah it's just squeezing that little extra

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    Emm?? Crysis 3,BF4 and TR and AMD optimised games.

    I think you should just stick with what you have ATM.

    If anything your CPU is going to be more a bottleneck for ARMA3 than your graphics card. It is a poorly optimised game at best,but has always done better on Intel CPUs.

    You should have stuck with your Core i7 for ARMA3 and BF4 MP TBH,although luckily BF4 has Mantle meaning you might be OK there for MP games.

    Edit!!

    That Palit uses a reference cooler. I would not touch a GTX760 using a reference cooler with a bargepole. HT4U did extended tests on the reference GTX760 and it had massive throttling problems.
    AMD Optimised? Are they, ooops my bad. Thanks! I could of sworn they were NVIDIA friends.

    Anyway yeah my little Athlon does bottleneck in ARMA 3 but it doesn't do too badly. It's always going to love Intel chips but then I didn't think one game was worth the cost of my i7. When it runs it runs pretty smoothly to be fair.


    Thanks for the heads up on the reference cooler, I had no idea it was that bad. I'll steer clear of it then.


    One thing I am worried about is if prices for these R9 280s are going to sore like the 280Xs are.
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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    The KFA2 card uses a stock cooler - I wouldn't buy it either.

    Well regarding the games I mentioned they are AMD Evolved titles and have been given away with AMD cards.

    Personally,I would just overclock your current card a bit and stick with it.
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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    I'd agree with Cat and say stick with your 7870, it's by no means a slow card and the differences you'll get in framerate i dont think will command that amount of money. I'd say save it for when you need it, whether it's on your pc in the far future or life in any which way you might need it.

    I think tbh Arma/dayz are absolute pains to run with how they are optimized My prediction is... 280's will be around £200-230 mark (£180 would be much nicer) with the 280x's ranging from £230-£280 from what i've been seeing recently.

    I too didn't realise the 760 stock coolers were so bad (mostly been reading amd recently, and im... er tired! hehehe, now im joking around oh god


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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    You're talking really minor upgrades (think 7870->7950) so I don't think it's going to be great value. They can all respond quite nicely to overclocking if you're wanting a few extra fps - look at the 3dmark thread for examples of how much of a boost you can get (albeit for a synthetic test).

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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    What about Crossfire? Until recently I used 2 x 7870s and the performance was excellent.

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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Quote Originally Posted by manocheese View Post
    What about Crossfire? Until recently I used 2 x 7870s and the performance was excellent.
    Great shout actually - if there's the space/power for it then that's going to be a large gain in performance, especially if you can source a second hand card.

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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Ooo thanks for the suggestion well at the moment my board has x16/x4. Although I don't think my 550W PSU will cut it?

    I'll have a look around. I am contemplating selling practically my whole computer if I can to start a whole new fresh build.

    UPDATE: Reckon an AM3+ with a FX-8320 be suitable for this crossfire setup?
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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Update: Ah, my XFX 550W only has 2 PCI-E cables. Bummer.

    I'd really love to stick to an AMD based system to be honest.
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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Some tough choices with what you are thinking Personally i would stick with your rig as it certainly not shabby. If the psu can't take another 7000 series card i'd say stick with it for now. If you did hypothetically sell your rig, how much would you get for it, profit/loss when compared to building a whole new rig? What would you be thinking in the way of parts, as i do think your build is balance and really nice.

    I think in games like (not 100% sure) dayz/arma they can eat up quite alot of intel chips, Rome2 i was looking at a while back, and that really brought both amd and intel to it's knees

    The 760k is quite a nice quad for the money (i was looking at it aswell for a while) and can be overclocked quite well from what i was reading.

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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Thanks for the help

    Yeah I suppose ARMA does eat up both chips; true that. Maybe I am expecting a huge gain which probably won't happen. My little Athlon 760K is at 4.6Ghz at the moment

    Maybe I should not sell it! I am currently looking at the older Phenoms again due to their higher IPC (ARMA likes IPC!).

    XFX 650W is only around £64, may go for it if I can find a 7870 cheap enough

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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeo01 View Post
    Thanks for the help

    Yeah I suppose ARMA does eat up both chips; true that. Maybe I am expecting a huge gain which probably won't happen. My little Athlon 760K is at 4.6Ghz at the moment

    Maybe I should not sell it! I am currently looking at the older Phenoms again due to their higher IPC (ARMA likes IPC!).

    XFX 650W is only around £64, may go for it if I can find a 7870 cheap enough

    Thanks again
    The R9 270 and R9 270X use the same GPU. I would expect they would work too??


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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Just found a cracking deal on an R9 280X. Would my 550W suffice?

    ... I'll have an overclocked chip on it (moved back to my Thuban I like it too much). I'll estimate 200W for the overclocked chip because my Thuban wasn't too far off it.
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    Re: Hd7870 -> r9 280/gtx 760?

    Sorry to be nosey but I'm also looking for a card like a 280X, if this was more than a one off deal would you mind sharing a link please?

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