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[moogle]

But seriously when was the last time your room was less than 0°C?

January 11th 2007

We'll see what temps it gets to this year...

[Barkotron]

But as someone else mentioned, will this magnetic pump affect your hard drive array?

No.

If the magnetic pump is powerful enough to affect hard drive data at that kind of range, you'd better not take it home from the shop in a car. Ever seen the end of Spiderman 2?

[FrozenFX-60]

-Webby

But seriously when was the last time your room was less than 0°C?

My room has never been that cold. However, my air cooled system goes well below 0°C.

That's with a Zalman 9500 AM2 with ArcticSilver Ceramique. Yes. Just air cooling only.
I just picked up the CoreContact-Freezer from sunbeamtech using the tuniq tx-2 compound that came with it. Best $35 i've spent. fantastic cooling. I expect to get even lower temps with the Sunbeam HS.

[Clunk]

[aidanjt]

However, my air cooled system goes well below 0°C.

That's with a Zalman 9500 AM2 with ArcticSilver Ceramique. Yes. Just air cooling only.
I just picked up the CoreContact-Freezer from sunbeamtech using the tuniq tx-2 compound that came with it. Best $35 i've spent. fantastic cooling. I expect to get even lower temps with the Sunbeam HS.

I'm afraid your sensor reading programme is having a mid-life crisis.

[Webby]

-Webby

My room has never been that cold. However, my air cooled system goes well below 0°C.

That's with a Zalman 9500 AM2 with ArcticSilver Ceramique. Yes. Just air cooling only.
I just picked up the CoreContact-Freezer from sunbeamtech using the tuniq tx-2 compound that came with it. Best $35 i've spent. fantastic cooling. I expect to get even lower temps with the Sunbeam HS.

Unless your room is oh I don't know about -25°C the is no way that your CPU will be running at those temps. Or of course the is always the other possibility that is your living in a secret pocket dimension where the laws of thermodynamics do not apply.

I think its a fairly safe bet that at least one of the following applies to you the program that is recording your temps is fubar, your motherboard is fubar or the sensors (yes all of them) are fubar or the other option you are operating your PC in a freezer.

[aidanjt]

I'm still laughing at Clunk's picture.

[Biscuit]

ROFL clunk what a picture!

Those temps are impossible mate, does the fact that one core is above 0 and the other is under not give the game away?

[SiM]

I'm surprised you guys haven't seen that pic before... seen it at least 3 or 4 times before

[aidanjt]

I'm surprised you guys haven't seen that pic before... seen it at least 3 or 4 times before

It's not quite the picture itself I'm laughing at, it's more to do with Clunk's creative use of it.

[FrozenFX-60]

Unless your room is oh I don't know about -25°C the is no way that your CPU will be running at those temps. Or of course the is always the other possibility that is your living in a secret pocket dimension where the laws of thermodynamics do not apply.

- Think outside the box. There are other sources of "intake" air besides the room the pc resides in. I hedge to bet you have yet to harness mother nature to cool your equipment. The laws of thermal dynamics are still being adhered to in my situation. Not even bent a little bit.

I think its a fairly safe bet that at least one of the following applies to you the program that is recording your temps is fubar, your motherboard is fubar or the sensors (yes all of them) are fubar or the other option you are operating your PC in a freezer.

- I accept your bet. And I win.

A: The program used to monitor my system is Everest Ultimate Edition, has always monitored my system temps accurately. Try it out yourself. http://www.lavalys.com/beta/everestu...lgsdty5knm.zip I have used Everest over 4 different skt 939 dual core cpu's. Always accurate using my cooling method, or any other cooling methods.

B: My motherboard is rock solid. DFI ftw.

C: All sensors work perfectly fine.

D: pc is in my room. not a freezer.

Now, I think it is time you fully understand that your pc CAN indeed be colder than the room, and on air cooling alone. And this is simple stuff too, so I won't hurt your brains with the full thermal dynamics explanation of how it cools and how condensation is not a factor.

- Intake air from the outside. See, simple stuff. And here is the kicker... You get to use any available weather station in your area, or the one outside your window, compare these temperatures to the temperatures being monitored by the software. When it is 10C outside, and your cpu socket sensor read 11C, and your idle core (in this case core #2) reads 10c, then that pretty much assures that all things are monitoring properly.. MB, software, CPU diodes...

here's how it looks.



Current setup has an exhaust system duct as well. As I no longer live where that photo was taken, I simply made a custom board for the window for the intake and exhaust ducts to fit to.

See. That wasn't so hard now, was it? I hope this satisfies your bewilderment and overwhelming urge to discount someone else because you were not open minded enough to think of this possibility.
Or is there some other portion of thermal dynamics you are still in the negative about? Condensation? maybe? It usually follows hand and hand with the "There is no way... ur on crack.... yatta yatta...." clowns I deal with.

[SiM]

So its colder than -12C outside?

IMO, that idea is pretty silly... make a hole in you wall for your pc

[FrozenFX-60]

Those temps are impossible mate, does the fact that one core is above 0 and the other is under not give the game away?

On AMD dual-core's (non-first gen am2) It is very very common that the cores differ by several degrees C. This is even more apparent when an advanced heatpipe or TEC or watercooling system is used. On a day to day basis when nature is not being used, the difference between cores is between 10-15c.
If you doubt it at all, go to the lavalys forums and ask the program developer yourself about the differences between the cores. http://lavalys.com/forum/

[FrozenFX-60]

So its colder than -12C outside?

IMO, that idea is pretty silly... make a hole in you wall for your pc

At the time of the screen shot, it was actually -12.6c

LOL @ hole in the wall. When I moved into that apartment, i was like... "oooooh yeah..... we cooling s*** nows" That hole was maid by the landlord/owner after converting a two story house into a 2 seperate apartment. No central heat or air, so they went industrial. Both the upstairs apt and the apt I was in got heater/AC/de-humifiers from Pelonis http://www.pelonis.com/port_ac.htm. Due to fire code, the window exhaust option was not an option, so they cut a hole in the wall.

[Biscuit]

So by think outside the box you mean think outside the house...

I dont really think you have proved a great deal here to be quite honest. You're argument began with a vague statement and has ended in a solution which entirely unpractical for 99% of people.

Could you not have just said how you did it in the first place or do you get kicks out of making clearly subject-educated people look like 'fools'?(i put this in quotation marks deliberately as i dont feel foolish in the slightest).

Id rather spend £200 on a cooler than have a fat hole in my wall attached to the PC... infact my PC helps keep my room warm rather than your solution which is a slight loss to insulation.

[Webby]

I take it this is in the winter, but in the summer your back in the same boat as all the other people cooling on air.

Oh and why condensation may not be an issue due to the air not being at its dew point, high humidity is as much of a problem and damaging to computer components. When its wet outside do you think you are pulling in dry air?

I'm with Biscuit on this you obviously came here with the intention trying to make people look foolish, you are not thinking outside the box plenty of people have connected up their PC's to air con and to vents during winter.

If you wanted to show off your temps then you could have started a new thread and posted all about it perhaps posing the question "look at my temps guess how i do it?" rather than posting exceedingly limited information in fact implying that the temperatures are due to the cooler you are using rather than the fact your using -12ºC air for the cooling. You state that buying that cooler was the best $35 you ever spent well hate to break it to you but you could have saved that money with air temps that low stock cooling would have been more than adequate.

I also reckon I win the bet, your PC is obviously in a freezer, a natural one by all means but a freezer all the same!