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    News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Patch Tuesday to introduce fixes for 34 vulnerabilities in various Microsoft programs - including Windows 7.
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    I have to admit that it's a little alarming to see that W7 (An OS I haven't been able to get yet.) requires three important patches before it's release.
    The one critical patch relates to IE8, so I'm excluding that.
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Bulletin 6,7,10 and 12 are for win 7 aren't they? So thats 4? But in fairness, they are only important, not critical. So its bad, not very bad!

    As for before its released, its been RTM, it probably has a higher userbase already than all the OSX versions combined, so things will be appearing, in one way its good that the company is this quick.

    The problem comes in when to patch, should you have a monthly rollup or not is a hotly debated topic. I think plenty of iTunes users would argue that someone has to tell apple to stop chucking out a new version every time the sun sets.
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    I have to admit that it's a little alarming to see that W7 (An OS I haven't been able to get yet.) requires three important patches before it's release.
    The one critical patch relates to IE8, so I'm excluding that.
    The majority of W7 code is Vistas....the same issues get brought across in the code.
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Its not uncommon, some fixes apply to common elements in Windows, those which haven't been patched in Vista may also need addressing in Windows 7. However I do remember shortly after each release of an OS there have been updates. Didn't take Apple long to release 10.6.1 and now 10.6.2 is on the way.

    Its normal in todays day and age. Install software, check for updates!

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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    I have to admit that it's a little alarming to see that W7 (An OS I haven't been able to get yet.) requires three important patches before it's release.
    Not really, seeing as it's been in the hands of lots of people for some time, and thus been subject to lots of external testing.
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Normal - yes. But so many ? And so quickly ?
    But congrats to MS for being quick on the mark. I'm looking forward to trying W7.
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Sounds pretty sensible to me, have a big push to clear the decks ready for the roll out W7.

    There are millions of people running W7 already and soon there will be 10/100s of millions more, all installing W7 and wanting to update it (it was RTM months ago and MS haven't stopped developing).

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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    the worst part of windows updates is the reboots....
    windows 7 hasnt changed in regards to number of reboots for updates so its still montly reboots fun fun...

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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    That's not fair to say its monthly, its not been for me on vista.

    The problem is there are still core components which can't be unloaded without unloading required parts of the OS.
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Most OS have the update=reboot problem. Most Linuxes bug you to install Kernel patches and then reboot...

    Monthly is hardly a major hassle anyway? You're always free to decline the updates or turn off auto update!

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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Quote Originally Posted by kingpotnoodle View Post
    Most OS have the update=reboot problem. Most Linuxes bug you to install Kernel patches and then reboot...

    Monthly is hardly a major hassle anyway? You're always free to decline the updates or turn off auto update!
    Kernel and init updates is the *only* point where you need to 'reboot' (and it need not be a full reboot), and there's work going on to add hotpatching support to Linux.

    And yes, monthly updates are a major hassle if the system has HA requirements and worse, if an update breaks the systems core OS components.
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    And yes, monthly updates are a major hassle if the system has HA requirements
    Shouldn't the rest of the HA setup deal with the downtime of an individual system undergoing updates?
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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Quote Originally Posted by aidanjt View Post
    Kernel and init updates is the *only* point where you need to 'reboot' (and it need not be a full reboot), and there's work going on to add hotpatching support to Linux.

    And yes, monthly updates are a major hassle if the system has HA requirements and worse, if an update breaks the systems core OS components.
    In fairness, this isn't the case, the absense of a decent side by side system means that an update to say libpng can create all sorts of fun and games.

    Often its just easier to reboot the whole damn thing.
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    I've never had an MS patch break anything. Not at work, nor at home. (I have witnessed the re-boots that accompany the patches cause a major outage though). My first experiance of auto updates on a linux flavour was that it patched the kernel, then wouldn't boot any more

    As for Win 7 needing patches before it's released - There are several people using Win 7 at work and I am typing this on Win 7 RTM. So it's not exactly before its released.
    Anyway I have done a more then one release of software at work that has been up until I tested it, then immediatly released a patched version. My record was a version that was "live" for less than 30 seconds. Thankfully they were normally releases to our QA team, but not always

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    Re: News - Microsoft readies largest ever security update

    Quote Originally Posted by Phage View Post
    I have to admit that it's a little alarming to see that W7 (An OS I haven't been able to get yet.) requires three important patches before it's release.
    The one critical patch relates to IE8, so I'm excluding that.
    So you'd rather they wait till w7 is out for joe public to buy before they fix problems with it?
    Imagine if Ford did the same thing, yes we know theres a problem with the brakes on the new Focus but were going to wait until people can actaully buy it before we fix the problem...

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