News - NVIDIA kicks off GeForce 300-series range with GeForce 310

[Pob255]

More than that it shows just how good the G92 chip was.
The original 8800gt was rushed trough just to blow the 3870 away on performance&cost
And yet that same humble G92 chip has bee heavly tweeked and kept up with the 4850.

When you have something that good no need to retire it, however due to human beings being what they are, a lot of people wouldn't buy it because it's "old" reguardless as to it actual performance.

EDIT: oh and you can probably get a few people to buy the same card twice.

[MadduckUK]

When you have something that good no need to retire it,

and when you have no replacement you just cant retire it.

at least the 8800gtx,9800gtx,etc had die shrinks - what exactly is the 210 -> 310 bringing to the table?

[this_is_gav]

Yeah, you won't see ATi doing this. nVIDIA is pretty shady.

Not even a tiny bit as bad as Nvidia, but the integrated graphics on AMD motherboards are based on the previous generation while using the nomenclature of the current generation. Barely even counts, but still.

More than that it shows just how good the G92 chip was.

And how little they've done since 2007.

[Pob255]

I was talking about he G92 not the 0A65 (that's the GF210 gpu)

This is probably more to do with nvidia just being able to say "look we did release a 300series in nov 09" just on paper.

EDIT:

Yeah, you won't see ATi doing this. nVIDIA is pretty shady.

Umm yes we have seen ATi doing this before in the past, granted way back in their 9xxx series days.
and in a way it was worse because 8000 series cards which were dx8 got rebrended into low end 9000 series so you ended up with some 9000 being dx9 and some being dx8

There's even some question over the more recent 3200 and 4200 having the same gpu

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

There's even some question over the more recent 3200 and 4200 having the same gpu

The HD4200 adds DX10.1 support and UVD2 which the HD3200 does not have and improved power saving features. OTH,this current Nvidia rebrand is the same GPU it seems. Also I am surprised that it wasn't called a 300 series chip beforehand as it is new GPU.

Even the shift from the 2900XT to the HD3870 added UVD,DX10.1 support and introduced a 256 bit memory bus and improved power saving features and a huge reduction in price. Also the RV670 had less transistors than the R600. If Nvidia was tweaking the GPU with some additional features perhaps they could be justified naming it a new series but they simply call the cards a new series even with the same old GPU.

[Ulti]

I thought the 300 series would continue from where the 250 series started at least.. I guess they'll start with 310, 320 etc. I'll laugh if people thought the 310 was better than the GTX 295 haha. Nice marketing.

[MadduckUK]

I thought the 300 series would continue from where the 250 series started at least.. I guess they'll start with 310, 320 etc. I'll laugh if people thought the 310 was better than the GTX 295 haha. Nice marketing.

sounds like you are waiting for the 350 then, yeah its a lot like the 250 but the name is SO much cooler

i made this up but it will probably happen anyway

[aidanjt]

sounds like you are waiting for the 350 then, yeah its a lot like the 250 but the name is SO much cooler

i made this up but it will probably happen anyway

Hey!.. It takes a lot of time and effort to change the stickers on a warehouse stocked full of mid-range cards. Don't be mean.

[MadduckUK]

Hey!.. It takes a lot of time to change the stickers on a warehouse stocked full of mid-range cards. Don't be mean.

well since there is no sticker on the cards cooler to say what it is, i think all they need to do is take the 210 out of the box -and presto! OEM 310

[shaithis]

As if by magic!

[aidanjt]

Ta Da!!!

Although I was thinking the stickers on the back myself.

[MadduckUK]

i was thinking firmware will need a prod.. miiiinor deeeeeeetails *rubs hands*

[aidanjt]

Ohhhh, good point.. They'll have to plonk the card on a VBIOS flasher, *thennnnnn* change the back stickers.

[mercyground]

Yay! More lies and parlor tricks from NV.

Keep killing what little respect and trust you had left. Idiots.

[aidanjt]

You know, I was thinking, I should get a 295 HSF for my 8800GTS and glue on another PCIe power block. It would give it a whole new lease on life. I could even play Crysis!

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I wish I could flash my HD4830 to an HD4850 as they are both based on the same chip!!