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Read more.Apple?s iPad famously doesn?t support Flash. Is Adobe in danger of losing its grip on web video and animation?
Yes because people really care about 3% of surfers.
What I think this shows is something bigger, for instance take the TFL website.
It has a simple indicator of tube line status, yet, on the iPhone there's an App for that (TM).
And with good reason, the app is a lot faster, better tailored to the device. A lot of people have this idea that the harmodginisation you naturally get with HTML is a good thing, its not for the user experience a lot of the time.
The amount of people that make web based systems for clients when really they would prefer a thicker client experience, then get all surprised when the client turns round to say "well actually we wanted something that wasn't runing in a web-browser".
Which would you rather have on a slow network data system, a nice GUI app that loads only a few bytes of data, or something which has to load a whole HTML page, all the CSS, all the image resources, re-render a few times etc. A fat client app can give better battery life, lower data useage as well as obviously respond faster with a much better user experiance.
The thing with apple is flash go against their model, because you can address a lot of the short comings of HTML with flash, and that would stop the walled garden.
I think if anything this shows the demise of people wanting an HTML interface, despite what Google Mail, Google Office and Faceferrit users would say.
The question on my mind is if this is just for the mobile phone market, where the cramped device, slow network, slow page rendering really means that gmail is better done in a dedicated app, or is it for the desktop PC too?
I know I prefer outlook with xobni pro to gmail.....
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This is the key reason, in my opinion, that Apple refuse point blank to support Flash.Originally Posted by TheAnimus
If done right, Flash can be great, it just isn't often done right. It's used for flashy graphics and animations. There is no reason you couldn't have a very capable app written in Flash, I'm sure it is capable of that these days. Personally I would rather use a Flash applet than a Java applet in the browser.
Indeed, banning a technology because a lot of people miss-use it is quite a stupid thing to do, as the people who wish to do such horrific things will just find another tool set to use.
Should people ban backcolor in HTML because people in the good old days used to nest them to create a flashing effect in netscape 2 or something similar......
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Banning flash abuse should be God's 11th commandment.
I thought flash was just a benchmark for cpu coolers.
Does it actually have any other use?
flash kills my old laptop on page loading
The take up of the iPad isn't going to be nearly enough to damage the domination of Adobe Flash, farcical idea, really
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"Apple's iPad famously doesn't support Flash. Is Adobe in danger of losing its grip on web video and animation?"
Really - are you being serious? Flash will continue to reign supreme. I doubt even HTML5/Silverlight could steal the crown.
Helluva premature to forecast the downfall of Flash, Steve...
Especially when you hear that it won't receive a W3C Recommendation for another 12 years!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#Completion (Citation: "When will HTML5 be finished?")
*apple say* Flash is poo and unnecissary check out HTML 5 its well awesome
*people say* Oh wow yeah HTML 5 is really good, screw flash i dont need you anymore.
Get a grip apple flash is pretty much madatory for any internet PC. You dont support it because its buggy? yeah ok its their fault...
I can see the flash thing being a big problem for Apple over the next 12 months. Google would rather have HTML5 than Flash too, but they're still happy to have Adobe bring Flash support to Android. As is Microsoft with Windows Mobile in spite of Silverlight.
It's all part of the Apple ego, bolstered by the success of the iPhone. It might be premature, but I'm expecting that ego to kick them in the teeth in the non too distant future. Far too big-headed for their own good.
This is almost the reason why people buy Apple products in the first place, they want something that works and they're happy with the limitations (if they're even aware of them).
I don't like Apple stuff, they dumb down and limit their equipment and charge you extra for it, that's not really something I'm willing to do. However, I'm quite happy to tinker with something to make it work how I want it to, something that most Apple customers don't want to do.
PCs are not consumer devices and they really shouldn't be sold as such. Apple makes consumer devices that happen to resemble personal computers.
Personally i think this seems like a barely relevant and scarcely accurate argument. Classing everything apple into one based on the ipad/iphone is total rubbish.
Im not a pro apple person at all but OTT stereotyping works both ways.
You just have to read the reaction to Adobe's blog on the matter to see just out of touch with reality they are at Adobe. The flash implementation on OS X and Linux, are not bad they are unusable. Jobs isn't lying about the crashes being down to flash. It's the reason I have to use click to flash on my browser otherwise it would crash every five minutes.
Adobe have been lazy and are finally getting bitten for it. If it spurs them to fix the issues great. However they seem to have their heads in the sand at present.
The idea of flash on my iPhone fills me with dread at present.
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