News - AMD Llano performance figures leak onto the net

[HEXUS]

Early numbers for mainstream Fusion parts indicate average CPU performance paired with significant graphical horsepower.

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[scaryjim]

Performancewise this is hardly news: we already know that Llano is going to be based on the existing K10.5 core and do without L3 cache, so it's no surprise that it performs basically the same as existing K10.5 CPUs with no L3 cache Similarly, the rumour is for a 320 or 400 shader iGPU on the board, so it would be unsurprising to see this benchmark at a similar level to a 5500 / 5600 discrete card (although presumably a little slower, given that it's sharing memory bandwidth with the CPU). Makes you wonder if they've actually seen performance figures at all, doesn't it

On the other hand:

If these numbers are accurate, the CPU portion of the chip will be as fast or a little slower than its contemporaries, given a certain TDP.

While it may be technically accurate, this statement appears to completely miss the point that the 65W - 95W TDP includes a 320 / 400 shader GPU! So the TDP for the CPU portion of the chip must be significantly lower than existing Athlon IIs, yet they're getting the same level of performance (hurrah for process shrink huh!? Just think what they could've done if they'd managed to move Phenom II to 32nm...). To get Athlon II X2 + Radeon 5550 performance in a single 65W APU package would be pretty damn impressive....

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

AFAIK,AMD Llano also has improved Turbo Core so it will be interesting to know whether any leaked performance benchmarks have been performed with this functioning correctly.

[BullDogg]

While it may be technically accurate, this statement appears to completely miss the point that the 65W - 95W TDP includes a 320 / 400 shader GPU! So the TDP for the CPU portion of the chip must be significantly lower than existing Athlon IIs, yet they're getting the same level of performance (hurrah for process shrink huh!? Just think what they could've done if they'd managed to move Phenom II to 32nm...). To get Athlon II X2 + Radeon 5550 performance in a single 65W APU package would be pretty damn impressive....

Very true, but remember that the Core i3 includes a GPU as well. Sure, it's not going to be as powerful, but it's still technically in that 73W TDP.

[scaryjim]

Very true, but remember that the Core i3 includes a GPU as well. Sure, it's not going to be as powerful, but it's still technically in that 73W TDP.

Ah, you were comparing the LLano TDPs to the i3 TDPs? Sorry, my misunderstanding, I thought you were comparing them to the existing Athlon IIs, which are 65W for the X2 and 95W for the X4. That makes more sense then

The big disappointment for me is that we'll never get 32nm Phenom IIs, as I'm pretty sure they could've made a 65W Hex-core comfortably if they'd gone done the die-shrink route on it...

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Very true, but remember that the Core i3 includes a GPU as well. Sure, it's not going to be as powerful, but it's still technically in that 73W TDP.

The Core i3 2100 has a 6EU IGP which is slower than an HD5450 graphics card:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4083/t...2100-tested/11

Even if the Llano IGP is slightly slower than an HD5570 it is still going to over twice as quick as an HD5450:

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/S...D_5450/29.html

[Jedibeeftrix]

the number of shaders in the two different Llano types is the most interesting question for me.

originally, before news of a dual-core Llano escaped, rumour suggested that a quad-core Llano would sport a 480 shader GPU.

notably this is the same number as the new ATI mobile GPU the 67x0 series.

now we have dual-core Llano with its "Winterpark" GPU and quad-core Llano with its "Beavercreek" GPU.

if Bobcat is 80 shaders, and we presume that Llano (quad) still has 480, where does this leave Llano (dual)?

160 shaders?
240............?

[Methanoid]

AMD are gonna own the HTPC market for sure.. but overall CPU performance is a little ordinary

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

It looks likes the APU will be similar in performance to an HD5550:

http://www.techpowerup.com/138872/AM...lano-APUs.html