News - Microsoft’s E3 Xbox One demos ran on Nvidia powered PCs

[TheAnimus]

Aspect 1 being that Sony appears to be able to put some "representative" hardware at E3, whereas Microsoft had to make do with a "parts bin special" (yes, I'm being unfair in that assessment).

But this was just a 3rd party developer.

I mean, if I had only a few dev kits, I wouldn't be showing them off on my booth. That hardware would have been set up ages before and un-available for development use.

I don't get why its news worthy. Either MS are going to miss their ship date or they are not. Let's not forget they own the DX technology this is all built on, they have a lot more options than say Sony in this respect.

From the game dev point of view, I would demo on whichever hardware we have been deving against the longest. This is going to be the 'parts bin special' as you call it. It simply makes sense for me to show my product on the most tested, refined platform.

[TheAnimus]

Personally I don't see a real problem here, nothing of note really.

I still remember the steam is evil thing.

Hell I didn't even want it on my machine until their fixed their EULA.

But the thing is, convienance won out.

Reselling console games is currently dodgy when they have multiplayer keys. This is just an extension of that, but with the added benefit you don't have to switch disks...... Most people I think will sell their principles for that convience, thou they will deny it at first.

For me, the big sadness comes from MS not helping the homebrew community, xbox arcade is great, something to be proud of and has many top notch games on it.

[crossy]

It's obviously become a "story" on the back of all the (justified) negative reactions to the XBO on the internet - and I am sure we'll see many more stories around the net that are just as anti Microsoft over the next few months until public opinion changes (if it ever does).

The fact that you can hold this opinion means - to me at least - is that Microsoft's handling of the various ... "controversial" ... aspects of the XBone has been well below their usual level of spin control.

And, I'll argue that they've got a bigger problem in that if this is what "people" are saying now then the real (i.e. production hardware) XBone is going to have a mountain to climb to gain acceptance to the level it needs. Especially if this bad-mouthing bandwagon continues to gain momentum.

Because I'm a bit of a Microsoft loyalist when it comes to consoles I'm hoping that they use the time between now and launch day to fix the problems it's got. Which, lets be honest, aren't with the hardware (if/when it exists) but with way that Microsoft want people to use it.

If things don't change, then I forsee a rerun of the PS3 v's XBox360 battle, but with the positions reversed. I still maintain that - technically speaking - the PS3 IS a better machine, but it's all the other stuff (better controller, more exclusives, cheaper) that persuaded me to go for the Xbox.

[The Hand]

Considering I am not pre-ordering either console, so this is not too important for me. I am just going to wait and see how things unfurl, but it is obviously bad PR for XBO, since any perceived or real weaknesses, will just compound previous bad news such as the price vs the PS4 and "TV,TV,TV" launch. I think MS should price match the XBO with the PS4, just so they have created some positive PR and and can also claim to be responsive to customer feedback.

[Jimbo75]

I guess the only real surprise is that it was running nvidia, not AMD. Got to wonder what the red team will make of that...

They'll be laughing, it wouldn't have crashed had they used an AMD card.

[shaithis]

I think MS should price match the XBO with the PS4, just so they have created some positive PR and and can also claim to be responsive to customer feedback.

You mean sell a Kinect-less version for the same price as the Kinect-less PS4?

Yeah, it's not ideal that every XBO needs a Kinect to function.....but that's the price of standardising on a new input method.

You think there won't be a Move 2.0 for Ps4 that costs around £70?

[The Hand]

You mean sell a Kinect-less version for the same price as the Kinect-less PS4?

Yeah, it's not ideal that every XBO needs a Kinect to function.....but that's the price of standardising on a new input method.

You think there won't be a Move 2.0 for Ps4 that costs around £70?

If it's possible to have an XBO with no Kinect then yes, but I don't think that will happened that quickly, as it looks as though Kinect is pretty integral to XBO. There will probably be Move 2.0 for around £70 or more but it's not essential for use it seems. Considering the runaway success the PS4 seems to be enjoying, it might be worth a pricing match, even if it means selling the XBO with Kinect at cost price just to get the user base installed and the XBO community growing.

[shaithis]

I still maintain that - technically speaking - the PS3 IS a better machine, but it's all the other stuff (better controller, more exclusives, cheaper) that persuaded me to go for the Xbox.

Is it?
How many GPU cores with eSRAM do we have to compare it with? Until we see some figures, it's complete guesswork. For all we know, they are no different.......hell, the XBox could even be faster (although I suspect the PS4 will nudge it by a whisker but like everyone else's opinion, it's a complete guess!)

[Sharkeye]

good good was to run the games of the two consoles on PC....

[NiPPonD3nZ0]

If they are running PC's... why the hell would someone use god damn joysticks? key/mouse combo is WAY BETTER...

is it just me or playing games with a jaystick makes it ... childish... i loved joystick when i was ten... but then i was running a Master System and playing Sonic the Hedgehog... a joystick made sence... now playing anything else with a joystick... no thanks...

[hiyayhi]

Not exactly surprising considering the fact that the xbox one is just gonna be a beefed up APU.

[McPhee]

That was the Lococycle demo.



Most demos were running from dev kits.



Forbes did a pretty good dismissal of the 'story': http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasoneva..._medium=social

To be honest, it does seem to be yet more Xbox One-related FUD, turned up in the quest to find anything that show the Xbox One in a bad light. I mean, Lococycle?!?!? Does anyone seriously believe that they needed to fake those graphics, or that the Xbox One is incapable of rendering games of such visual fidelity?

[GunJob]

It wasn't GTX700 series its cleary a EVGA GTX680 but i guess that doesn't change much

[deejayburnout]

This is comical.

[crossy]

If they are running PC's... why the hell would someone use god damn joysticks? key/mouse combo is WAY BETTER... is it just me or playing games with a jaystick makes it ... childish... i loved joystick when i was ten... but then i was running a Master System and playing Sonic the Hedgehog... a joystick made sence... now playing anything else with a joystick... no thanks...

Yes it IS just you - just checked Amazon and the "XBox Controller for PC" is their top selling PC controller. And I'm sure that there's quite a few PC flight sim aficionados out there in Hexus-land who much prefer their "flight sticks"+keyboard to mouse+keyboard.
I prefer a mouse for those games that NEED precision - problem is that WASD is no where near as intuitive as a left-stick. And personally speaking I find I can game for a LOT longer on a controller-driven game than a keyboard-driven one - with the latter after about an hour the wrist cramps (no off colour comments please) cut in with a keyboard.
Something like Saint's Row 3 isn't nearly as good with a keyboard as a controller/gamepad - the strafing moves are problematic. Then again, there's little to stop me switching from one control method to the other as I need to - so for driving/shooting sections use the joypad, but if I'm sniping someone I can grab the mouse.

(I still maintain that - technically speaking - the PS3 IS a better machine, but it's all the other stuff (better controller, more exclusives, cheaper) that persuaded me to go for the Xbox.) Is it?
How many GPU cores with eSRAM do we have to compare it with? Until we see some figures, it's complete guesswork. For all we know, they are no different.......hell, the XBox could even be faster (although I suspect the PS4 will nudge it by a whisker but like everyone else's opinion, it's a complete guess!)

You've misread what I said - I wasn't talking about PS4 v's XBone, instead I was talking about the current generation. I thought it was pretty much a given that the PS3 has a better/more-advanced hardware spec than the XBox360?

[Noggsy]

lol that's hilarious you think they'd at least have the actual hardware there.