News - Intel enhances roadmap with eye on PC enthusiasts

[Agent]

AFAIK When they switched from solder to goop the change was because of technical reason, with shrinking die's the solder started to crack and form voids so they had to switch to goop. What has me interested is if they have solved the problems of using solder on small die sizes, or if the die has become bigger.

Even if this is the case (no idea myself), the TIM they used was utter crap. You can delid your chip, replace with some better stuff and get fairly big drops in temperature.
It wouldn't have been so bad if it was non K that they used the cheap stuff for, but what would it have added cost wise to the K series? Couldn't be that much!

[LSG501]

hmmm cores... socket 2011-3 8 core i7 sounds nice but you can already get an 8 core socket 2011, it's just badged as xeon and runs at around 2ghz meaning the hex core i7 at 3.2ghz faster (clock speeds could be off a little as it's memory) in multicore applications, it's also got a fairly high tdp.

The 8 core extreme would need to be at a faster clock speed to actually make it worthwhile which means a likely tdp increase and as it's an extreme I'm expecting it to be around £1000.

As much as I like the idea of more cores it's just not worth the extra over a 6 core, not to mention that if you have the space and need for more cores it's almost as cheap to buy 2 quad core rigs as a 6 core rig which for me personally gives better performance in the software I use as it can network render spreading the load over all the cpu's on the network.

I'd have been more interested in a 6 core for socket 1150, take out the gpu part of the current haswell and use that space for more cpu cores but I can't see that happening as it would eat into the 'pro' pricing.

DDR4 sounds nice though but not sure how much performance that would really bring, it's not like ram is the slowest part of a pc even with ddr3.

Oh and for those on about the aio, if it's the one with 'rounded corners' it looks like the sony vaio tap 20inch to me....

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Given they're announcing it as "Now" with quick sync and the i3s already have quick sync, it's more likely that this will be an unlocked 2-core, 2-thread, low cache chip. Given that software is starting to move towards threading and away from single-thread performance as a determining factor, I'd say an overclockable dual-core Pentium is a bit of a niche product, tbh...

Already people are saying the death of AMD on some forums!

I agree. A Core i3 K series CPU would have been a belter of a CPU,but also would have probably cost Core i5 sales too. Intel is not stupid.

[scaryjim]

... A Core i3 K series CPU would have been a belter of a CPU ....

Frankly, a Core i3 with turbo would be a belter of a CPU, but then they couldn't justify charging $80 more by branding those parts as low power i5s: http://ark.intel.com/products/75045/...up-to-3_60-GHz .

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Frankly, a Core i3 with turbo would be a belter of a CPU, but then they couldn't justify charging $80 more by branding those parts as low power i5s: http://ark.intel.com/products/75045/...up-to-3_60-GHz .

OFC,its a calculated move - Intel are masters of product segmentation.

Don't worry even the Pentium AE will be OK for people to say AMD is doomed I say!! Dooooooooomed!!

[DanceswithUnix]

The original Pentium was released late, didn't hit the clock target, ran hot, and for the integer workloads of the time was only 20% faster per clock than the 486 despite Intel saying it would be really fast. The static instruction scheduling was so bad it prompted pipeline stall avoidance tricks that damaged software performance on later platforms for years.

So to celebrate such a dog of a lump of silicon, they should release a re-branded celeron but bump the voltage right up to make it hotter, down clock it by 10% to celebrate the intended 66MHz original part only hitting 60MHz, and release it next year. Oh, and they should release it in an "overdrive" box guaranteed to be compatible with existing motherboards for just another £100 but make that even slower.

People have such short memories, or I am getting old

[keithwalton]

The whole TIM debate makes me laugh.
For years intel were soldering lids on enthusiast chips and people were complaining that they couldn't remove the lid for direct die cooling.
So intel removed the solder and gooped it instead and now the same people are moaning about the TIM being worse. Can't win!

[j.o.s.h.1408]

Already people are saying the death of AMD on some forums!

I agree. A Core i3 K series CPU would have been a belter of a CPU,but also would have probably cost Core i5 sales too. Intel is not stupid.

Amd has been dead for ages