Nvidia announces Tesla P100 GPU with Pascal architecture

[scaryjim]

I guess other people having differing opinions isn't your thing then?...

Read any of the EU threads and you'll see that I'm quite happy with people having opinions that differ from mine. Some thing *are* a matter of opinion - there is no absolute right or wrong answer, and it depends on your own priorities and point of view.

What isn't my thing is someone making demonstrably wrong statements, back-pedalling wildly when it's pointed out those statements are wrong, then ultimately trying to claim they were "opinions" and therefore aren't open to critical debate. You haven't expressed a single genuine opinion in this thread; you've made a number of statements as to both the connections and connectors on and supported by the P100 compute card. Some of those statements have been provably wrong. Whether you consider them "opinions" or not is irrelevant - just because you claim it's an "opinion", doesn't mean it can't be wrong.

If your original statements stood on their own you wouldn't have to keep making your arguments more specific because you would be able to present evidence that supported your original position. Presenting evidence to support your case is a key skill in debating. If you find yourself needing to restate your arguments to make your point, it's probably time to look at your original argument and see if there's anything wrong with it.

Now, Hexus is a great place. It's populated by intelligent people who are generally more interested in the debate than in being right or wrong. For instance, when I told my step son (who's about to turn 18) that this discussion/debate/argument had been going on for 5 pages and hadn't devolved to petty name-calling, he was flabbergasted. Hexus really is that unusual a place in internet-land. But one of the potential downsides of that is that your opinions can and will be held up to critical assessment. So if you make a generic statement, and evidence exists to show that generic statement is incorrect, you will get called on it. That's how Hexus works. It's a place that encourages and enjoys critical debate. It encourages people to think about the way the world works and the way they interact with the world. If that's not your thing, I think that's kind of sad. Quite apart from anything else, it means you are likely to start and prolong more arguments along these lines, because you will make statements that you think mean one thing, but everyone else thinks mean something different. Like in this case.

People disagree with me all the time (I'm known for it ). Sometimes it's because I'm wrong, and if they can persuade me of that then I'll happily accept that. Sometimes it's because there is no right or wrong answer and it's a genuine matter of opinion, and I'm fine with that too. But sometimes, when people disagree with me, it's simply because they're wrong. And if they continue to disagree despite me having presented a huge amount of evidence that shows they're wrong, and despite other people also telling them that they're wrong, I'm kind of not alright with that. I'm not alright with people being flat out wrong and apparently being quite happy with being wrong as long as no-one questions them being wrong. I'm not happy with the ignorance and apathy of most of society. And if that makes me a bad person, I'll cop to being a bad person, because if being a good person means ignoring other people's obviously bad decisions and bad choices, then frankly I don't want to be a good person.

Make of that what you will. I think I'm done with this one. Congratulations. I concede that something that connects to a PCIe bus does so without a PCIe connection. I hope NVidia find a way to explain that to their customers. Just take care next time you use a zebra crossing.

[Corky34]

TBH i only used the word opinions because i was fed up with you making things up as the discussion went along and claiming I'd said things i hadn't just so you could put on a display of machismo, in case it had escaped your notice that happen OVER 50 posts ago when i agreed to disagree with you, since then you've mostly been arguing with yourself.

I'll tell you what as it you seem intent on proving someone on the internet wrong, even though in your last post you said that we're here because I want to prove myself right and then in your very next post say how wrong i am, as you seem so intent on proving someone wrong how about this, you tell me what you want me to say and i'll say it word for word, will that make you happy? Will that satiate whatever this need of yours is?

I agreed to disagree over 50 posts ago because i could see this argument was getting us nowhere, but it seems that wasn't a satisfactory outcome for you, so you tell me what you want me to say and I'll say it, happy?

[scaryjim]

...you tell me what you want me to say and i'll say it word for word, will that make you happy? Will that satiate whatever this need of yours is? ...

I said I'm done with this, and I meant it - I'm not getting back into a protracted discussion; but since I think it's rude to ignore other people's questions it would be hypocritcal of me not to at least offer you a reply.

I want you to say what you mean. In this thread you've made two sets of statements; an initial generic set that were wrong, and a later specific set that were right. You've claimed the initial set meant the same as the later set, but they didn't. So what I want - what would make me happy - is if you actually said what you meant.

[Corky34]

I said what i meant in my first two statements, it's hardly my fault that you decided to go off on some misguided pedantic crusade all because you choose not to read between the lines, because you thought a place populated by intelligent people couldn't do exactly that when they combined what i said with the pictures of the P100 card.

[scaryjim]

I said what i meant in my first two statements, it's hardly my fault that you decided to go off on some misguided pedantic crusade all because you choose not to read between the lines, because you thought a place populated by intelligent people couldn't do exactly that when they combined what i said with the pictures of the P100 card.

I'm sorry, I may be misunderstanding you again - you're saying that I needed to "read between the lines" and "combine what [you] said with the pictures of the P100 card" to understand what you meant?

[lumireleon]

hehe 130 comments and counting about a connector, I hope IEEE is reading coz they need to borrow some ideas from here.