AMD Ryzen processor full lineup leaked

[Ozaron]

And the "X" could be AMD's version of Intel's "K" = unlocked multiplier.

Could've sworn that AMD confirmed all of its standard consumer CPUs would be multiplier unlocked. No need for an X or K in that case.

Edit: Here's the link. http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/10129...will-unlocked/

[KrisWragg]

The X could be ones that come with AiO water coolers? For "Xtreme" overclocking.

[DanceswithUnix]

If the prices compare, then things don't look good for intel's i3's - a 2C4T design against a 4C4T chip with comparable IPC? Not a chance

Depends how carefully reviewers let Intel cherry pick their apps and games for the AMD reviews

I do think the new Pentium with hyperthreading is Intel's attempt to make it look like if just a Pentium with a couple of cores is enough for gaming, then more than 8 threads is silly. I don't think that is true, and I think it will be further from the truth as time goes on, but I fully expect to hear it. That required an i3 to be labelled as a Pentium to make the story stick.

[Stu C]

I like how they seem to have directly comparable range names with intel (R3/I3 R5/I5 etc.) it should be less confusing for a lot of consumer than the previous naming schemes.

Now I just hope the prices are competitive enough for me to be able to afford a top end R5 at the very least.

Not just R3=i3, etc, but they've also matched model numbers:

R5 1400 = i5-7400
R5 1500 = i5-7500
R5 1600 = i5-7600
R7 1700 = i7-7700

I also think the X represents unlocked multiplier, like Intel K. This may well apply to all standard consumer CPU's, with the non-X processors being OEM versions.

[anselhelm]

I want to believe, but I'll wait to see an official announcement from AMD, especially given the dubious source of the information.

[Valantar]

And the "X" could be AMD's version of Intel's "K" = unlocked multiplier.

That would make sense, except that AMD has confirmed that all Zen SKUs have unlocked multipliers (although I'd expect there to be caveats when you look at the Pro SKUs).

I'd say the Pro series should be something along the lines of the Pro APUs of later years - 4-5-year support cycles, probably ECC support, possibly some additional features unlocked (that ARM-based security chip AMD has kicking around?), extensive stability and longevity testing (along with well-binned chips with semi-conservative clocks), and lastly: certification with popular professional applications.

I'm struggling to imagine what X would imply, so I'm leaning towards it simply being an easy way of saying "this is the fastest/best binned SKU in this series". The R7 1700, 1700X and 1800X mess that theory up somewhat, though.

Also, why haven't any sites managed to actually translate the headings in the table? What does the rightmost column say except "Intel"? Does it say "comparable Intel chips"? "Similarly priced Intel chips"? "These are some product names from Intel"? "Just messing with people who don't read Chinese. Intel"?

[gordon861]

I think these AMD chips either need to be a fair bit cheaper than the equivalent Intel, or have better performance.

Just releasing a chip that is almost or just about as good as the current Intel for a relatively small saving will just mean that people go with what they know works right now and stick with Intel.

[Ozaron]

I think these AMD chips either need to be a fair bit cheaper than the equivalent Intel, or have better performance.

Just releasing a chip that is almost or just about as good as the current Intel for a relatively small saving will just mean that people go with what they know works right now and stick with Intel.

I wouldn't be surprised if that is exactly what AMD wants to do, but if you've seen their financials recently that might not be an option. At least at the top end they will be considerably cheaper, though.

[iggy]

Missed a trick not just denoting them by processor count. R8 is 1 louder.

[Peter Parker]

Missed a trick not just denoting them by processor count. R8 is 1 louder.

Sometimes I think I'm the only sane one, and then I come here and people talk sense.

Dear AMD - your marketing people are rubbish. Just post stuff on Hexus and we'll give you some free ideas. Will accept free motherboard and CPU upgrades as payment Your welcome.

[nobodyspecial]

I just hope if AMD has a winner here, and it is BEATING Intel in more than half the stuff, they PRICE as BEATING Intel. They have one chance to make a few billion here and pay off debt. Intel WILL respond hard core to being spanked (like last time ~1999-2002), and you need to take all the high-end profits you can for as long as possible here. They are in business to MAKE MONEY, not be everybody's discount shop. I say that as a person who is hoping the posted handbrake victories vs. Intel are REAL and would buy a ZEN chip if that is the case probably (assuming games are within 5-10%, handbrake and watts/heat mean far more to me). I do not mind paying what ZEN is worth, not what some fool wants for free which will simply bankrupt them at some point. Note we went through the last whole round and they never made a dime (bullsnozer, fury, etc).

I hope people realize they need to make money at some point, instead of losing another 500mil like last year. They are still 2-3ys of 1BILLION PROFIT years away from being debt free and having some money to actually hire more engineers to get more competitive ALWAYS in their core stuff. I'd love a great price as much as the next guy, and will take it if they are stupid enough to price a i7-6900 level chip at $330...ROFL. If they win more benchmarks than they lost, PRICE EVEN or even higher until stock is on the shelf unsold. Again, they are a BUSINESS who badly needs to make money and might have a product (or two) worth the actual price!

Freeloaders pushing cheap prices suck. Get a better job if you can't handle a price appropriate sticker. Shareholder should revolt and ask for management's resignation if they don't price where perf says they should! You don't price what people WANT, you price what the market will handle (ask Intel/Nvidia - See both sides record quarters, earnings, margins, etc). Like I said, I'll take the cheap chip myself, but I'll laugh inside and say to myself, "freaking morons, but thanks...LOL - Goodbye R&D for round 2".

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Looks like a pricing leak from a UK based distributor:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...e_distributor/




Edit!!

More pricing leaks from OcUK forums:

http://www.kikatek.com/P893987/YD170...-65W?cPath=438
http://www.kikatek.com/P893986/YD170...GHZ-8-CORE-SKT
http://www.kikatek.com/P893985/YD180...GHZ-8-CORE-SKT

Also a leak from ShopBLT who have tended to be accurate:

http://www.shopblt.com/search/order_...&search=Search

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Also,a 4.2GHZ Ryzen SKU spotted in China:

https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/am...libility.html?

Its priced at $290. It might be the top bin 6C/12T SKU!!

[CAPTAIN_ALLCAPS]

That would make sense, except that AMD has confirmed that all Zen SKUs have unlocked multipliers (although I'd expect there to be caveats when you look at the Pro SKUs).

I'd say the Pro series should be something along the lines of the Pro APUs of later years - 4-5-year support cycles, probably ECC support, possibly some additional features unlocked (that ARM-based security chip AMD has kicking around?), extensive stability and longevity testing (along with well-binned chips with semi-conservative clocks), and lastly: certification with popular professional applications.

I'm struggling to imagine what X would imply, so I'm leaning towards it simply being an easy way of saying "this is the fastest/best binned SKU in this series". The R7 1700, 1700X and 1800X mess that theory up somewhat, though.

Also, why haven't any sites managed to actually translate the headings in the table? What does the rightmost column say except "Intel"? Does it say "comparable Intel chips"? "Similarly priced Intel chips"? "These are some product names from Intel"? "Just messing with people who don't read Chinese. Intel"?

Recent leaks imply that the X indicates a higher TDP part, i.e. the 1700X is a 95W chip whilst the 1700 is 65W.

[Rad77]

Recent leaks imply that the X indicates a higher TDP part, i.e. the 1700X is a 95W chip whilst the 1700 is 65W.

So what's the thinking on these higher TDP parts? Higher turbo boost?

[scaryjim]

So what's the thinking on these higher TDP parts? Higher turbo boost?

Probably more like it can maintain its turbo for longer - so the 1700 has a listed turbo of 3.7GHz, but I imagine it can only maintain that boost for a relatively short period of time to stay within the capabilities of a 65W cooling system. The 1700X can probably maintain its 3.8GHz peak turbo almost indefinitely, as long as it has adequate cooling.

EDIT: just as an aside though, other AMD processors (particularly mobile ones) can run outside their rated boost clocks and TDP for a very short period of time under certain conditions, and if that's the case with Ryzen then the real world boost on the X processors might be higher than listed...