AMD Ryzen processor full lineup leaked

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So what's the thinking on these higher TDP parts? Higher turbo boost?

Well, the "X" rated TDP of 95W is not that high, and the boosts are hardly extreme. Presumably the intention is for the X parts to be better able to boost multiple cores at once as well as get those slightly higher boost speeds, and the 65W parts get most of the performance for a nice cut in power and therefore heat.

However I would honestly like the 1800X to ship with a 120W+ TDP. It is hardly unreasonable for a high-clocked octacore CPU, especially when AMD will also offer more energy efficient options. Although having said that, it remains to be seen what the actual power draw of these chips are; TDP is barely more than a marketing number these days.

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Well, the "X" rated TDP of 95W is not that high, and the boosts are hardly extreme. Presumably the intention is for the X parts to be better able to boost multiple cores at once as well as get those slightly higher boost speeds, and the 65W parts get most of the performance for a nice cut in power and therefore heat.

However I would honestly like the 1800X to ship with a 120W+ TDP. It is hardly unreasonable for a high-clocked octacore CPU, especially when AMD will also offer more energy efficient options. Although having said that, it remains to be seen what the actual power draw of these chips are; TDP is barely more than a marketing number these days.

Ryzen is an SOC,so reviews which isolate CPU only power consumption will not give a fair view of things - it needs to be platform based.

I suspect overclocking Ryzen might be a bit more complicated with all that functionality on-board. It might explain why AMD is trying to automate it in some way looking at the bumpf so far.

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Well, the "X" rated TDP of 95W is not that high, and the boosts are hardly extreme. Presumably the intention is for the X parts to be better able to boost multiple cores at once as well as get those slightly higher boost speeds, and the 65W parts get most of the performance for a nice cut in power and therefore heat.

Is this extra headroom (for more concurrent cores running at boost speeds) in the X parts there because the X parts are different in some way or because they are binned?

What I'm wondering is that if you are paying more just to remove some inbuilt turbo throttling parameters (and for a handpicked and tested chip), then we may be back to the good old days of overclocking... the days when you could buy a cheaper part (in this case the non-X) and attempt to run it at the speed of the top of the range ones, knowing that physically the chips were identical (and in fact were sometimes higher-end chips that were being downgraded to fill the demand in that lower market segment).

That *would* be nice...

I suspect overclocking Ryzen might be a bit more complicated with all that functionality on-board.

damn, forgot about that - stop pissing on my bonfire!

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Is this extra headroom (for more concurrent cores running at boost speeds) in the X parts there because the X parts are different in some way or because they are binned?

What I'm wondering is that if you are paying more just to remove some inbuilt turbo throttling parameters (and for a handpicked and tested chip), then we may be back to the good old days of overclocking... the days when you could buy a cheaper part (in this case the non-X) and attempt to run it at the speed of the top of the range ones, knowing that physically the chips were identical (and in fact were sometimes higher-end chips that were being downgraded to fill the demand in that lower market segment).

That *would* be nice...



damn, forgot about that - stop pissing on my bonfire!

Yeah,but TBH does it really matter if Intel gets a few 100MHZ more?? In terms of percentage overclocks its not really that high TBH. It was not like in the past when I could get a 1.8GHZ E4300 to 3.1GHZ fairly easily!!

As long as AMD can get to around 4GHZ to 4.5GHZ its still reasonably fine as long as IPC,is reasonably decent,and especially if the CPUs cost less per core/per thread than the Intel ones.

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Yeah,but TBH does it really matter if Intel gets a few 100MHZ more?? In terms of percentage overclocks its not really that high TBH. It was not like in the past when I could get a 1.8GHZ E4300 to 3.1GHZ fairly easily!!

I do miss that very satisfying feeling of watching the benchmarks on your bargain bucket cpu leap upwards by 50% or more.