AMD Radeon Vega Frontier Edition arrives in June

[HEXUS]

Offers 64 next-gen compute units, 16GB HBM2, and 13TFLOPS FP32 performance.

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[SylvanSagacious]

Correct me if I'm wrong:

The fans were expecting the 12.5tflop card to be the big Vega competing against the 1080ti.

I know gamer/enthusiast cards tend to be clocked higher than workstation/computational cards, but still, it doesn't look too good for them, not unless the gamer card clock is cranked even harder.

[sykobee]

On the financial day, it makes sense to push the high margin enterprise products. Especially if that allows you to gloss over another month delay on the consumer parts.

[daddacool]

So Vega is Q2, but not the Vega that everyone actually wants? :/

[Pleiades]

So Vega is Q2, but not the Vega that everyone actually wants? :/

Who is this 'everyone' of which you speak?

[kompukare]

So Vega is Q2, but not the Vega that everyone actually wants? :/

Well, F's Edition and a Titan like release. Guess AMD could use some those crazy margins but while NV are really good at getting people to spend big, I doubt AMD will have as much success there.

Of course, if the chip was ready ages (demos back in December etc.) then aside from the Ryzen launch (rightly) taking all their resources (well any which can be shared between Radeon Group and CPU), there are really only two possibilities for the delay I can think of:

1. HBM2 shortages
2. Having to go back for revision

Still hope, they used the time to have polished launch drivers.

[Iota]

HBM2 shortages

Considering the complexity of using HBM2, I'd hazard a guess that this is what is holding the Vega launch back.

[qasdfdsaq]

AMD's marketing have well and truly lost their minds if they're releasing a gold, water cooled "Frontier Edition" GPU aimed at "data scientists, immersion engineers, and product designers,"

[Pleiades]

AMD's marketing have well and truly lost their minds if they're releasing a gold, water cooled "Frontier Edition" GPU aimed at "data scientists, immersion engineers, and product designers,"

Why?

[HW90]

AMD's marketing have well and truly lost their minds if they're releasing a gold, water cooled "Frontier Edition" GPU aimed at "data scientists, immersion engineers, and product designers,"

I disagree, my uni has plenty of high spec computers for these kind of people and they do not look minimalistic at all, plenty of the stuff is ASUS ROG which is a pretty damn outspoken design so a gold watercooled graphics card which can be hidden will go down just fine.

Companies are becoming much more show-offish with their equipment so it may even go down well.

[SylvanSagacious]

It's just as likely that they were trying to get the best gear they could, that wasn't £2k per unit, which would happen to be a high end gaming setup that also just happens to be loaded with LED's and crap.

In an environment where people are doing science stuff, number crunching, or from hard rendering in CG/Art, nobody is interested in what a computer or it's components look like, they're interested in performance and what is displayed on screen. If I went to a research facility and the computer banks were all riced out I'd feel embarrassed for them.

Game marketing has always been kind of embarrassing though. NEW! PAY ATTENTION! FIRE QUADBIKE GIGA MEGA BEASTMODE ULTRA-PRO KEYBOARD" add some LED's, slap on 40% markup per unit and someone will buy it, while those of us who prize performance above all end up having to get something with LED's on it just because it also happens to be the best in class. Like those Superflower PSU's...

You have to hand it to them though, they've forged a niche market by convincing people that high dps mice will make them better at games, or those silly sunglasses that IMPROVE GAMING CONTRAST BY X%!!!.

[HW90]

It's just as likely that they were trying to get the best gear they could, that wasn't £2k per unit, which would happen to be a high end gaming setup that also just happens to be loaded with LED's and crap.

In an environment where people are doing science stuff, number crunching, or from hard rendering in CG/Art, nobody is interested in what a computer or it's components look like, they're interested in performance and what is displayed on screen. If I went to a research facility and the computer banks were all riced out I'd feel embarrassed for them.

Game marketing has always been kind of embarrassing though. NEW! PAY ATTENTION! FIRE QUADBIKE GIGA MEGA BEASTMODE ULTRA-PRO KEYBOARD" add some LED's, slap on 40% markup per unit and someone will buy it, while those of us who prize performance above all end up having to get something with LED's on it just because it also happens to be the best in class. Like those Superflower PSU's...

You have to hand it to them though, they've forged a niche market by convincing people that high dps mice will make them better at games, or those silly sunglasses that IMPROVE GAMING CONTRAST BY X%!!!.

Not really, that university (and department in particular) has a disgusting amount of money, they're spending £200 million on a building for other departments just so they can have those departments buildings which are nearer to most of its buildings, if they felt it would provide any advantage whatsoever then they would pay the extra for the more normal looking equipment. The university is also heavily involved with industry, arguably to the point where they can be considered part of the operations of many big companies like Airbus, Boeing, Rolls-Royce, GlaxoSmithKline, so they are held to those high industrial standards.

Will agree on the game marketing though, it is very over the top.

[qasdfdsaq]

I disagree, my uni has plenty of high spec computers for these kind of people and they do not look minimalistic at all, plenty of the stuff is ASUS ROG which is a pretty damn outspoken design so a gold watercooled graphics card which can be hidden will go down just fine.

Companies are becoming much more show-offish with their equipment so it may even go down well.

I worked as a departmental IT purchaser for a uni for several years and have to facepalm at this so hard.

The only thing that'd make me facepalm harder would be if someone in my department (which, being computing science research, does demand a good deal of high-end equipment) came up to me and asked for flashy gold watercooled GPU for their workstation/server/cluster.

[uBronan]

I do not expect much from vega, its too much directed at insane priced company solutions.
Each time amd delays the consumer version further in the future, so by this it becomes clear that amd has no answer to the huge power nvidia is given albeit at insane prices but still i really do not think we will see something amazing for consumers from amd.
It really would surprise me if they lauch a card that fast.