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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    I did wonder that. Perhaps a small heatsink stuck on the top of the heatspreader, like an old 486-66 era chip?
    On second thoughts, a bare chip is never going to work. Assuming 10 W/k.m^2, that's only 1 W or so that can be convected away for a heatspreader temp of 100 C & 20 C ambient (& 1.5" square heatspreader). I could see a massively hamstrung BR taking 5 W, if it only had to update the bios (and not boot windows), but cutting it down to <1 W (safety factors and all, and taking account of thermal resistance of the heatspreader) is a big ask. Custom silicon that can just rewrite a bios is probably possible at that power level, but that's far too much effort for a goodwill gesture that'll be mostly forgotten in a couple of months.

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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    ... it might be easier for AMD just take a standard retail packaged APU and send it off instead of having to do a special package.
    I'd guess that's exactly what's happening - cheaper to send a retail package than to repack bare chips; cheaper to only have the APU posted back. If BR use the old-style stock coolers they are literally a square of aluminium with a cheap fan on top (and the only difference between the 45w and 100w versions was about 1cm in depth), so they can't be very expensive to make...

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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    Of course, AMD is unlikely to have a stock of spare coolers and retail boxes for the returned chips - they're just coming back for the recycling value (and probably to avoid everyone who bought RR requesting a chip, since a free CPU is a free CPU)

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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    I'd guess that's exactly what's happening - cheaper to send a retail package than to repack bare chips; cheaper to only have the APU posted back. If BR use the old-style stock coolers they are literally a square of aluminium with a cheap fan on top (and the only difference between the 45w and 100w versions was about 1cm in depth), so they can't be very expensive to make...
    It is the aluminium cooler of fail. Having said that is working perfectly fine on my A6 3670K and that is getting onto 6 years old now.

    I just loved all the people argueing that due to Intel having better ST performance,they would be better for general purpose use!!

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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    It is the aluminium cooler of fail. Having said that is working perfectly fine on my A6 3670K and that is getting onto 6 years old now. ...
    As my extensive testing showed (), the aluminium coolers of fail actually did a perfectly good job of keeping a processor at a sensible operating temperature. They were just incredibly noisy while doing it. I was impressed by the wraith cooler's noise profile when I built my step-son's Ryzen upgrade at Christmas though - it's a lovely bit of kit.

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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    Wraith stealth uses a similar bit of metal toothpaste for the finned bit (not even a copper core), so all the improvement seems to have occurred in the fan

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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    Picture of the "boot kit" which is basically a retail A6 9500:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment..._kit_from_amd/

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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    The Asus ROG Strix B350-F Gaming apparently works out of the box too.

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    Re: AMD issues support bulletin on 2nd gen Ryzen compatibility

    Two new budget X370 based motherboards have been released by Gigabyte and both are under £80:

    https://www.cclonline.com/product/24...board/MBD2328/
    https://www.cclonline.com/product/24...board/MBD2329/

    Both have support for Raven Ridge out of the box:

    https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...1x#support-cpu
    https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...1x#support-cpu

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