UK's online porn viewer age verification checks delayed

[philehidiot]

Perhaps they should just state that all pr0n actresses have to be digitally "enhanced" to look like Theresa May. That should cut out under age viewing, well any viewing really.

(apologies if anyone has just eaten for the mental image )

You.... utter..... I'm going to be impotent for a week.

[Corky34]

...hows about TOR? ....If you ban porn then the teenagers will just torrent it or go to dodgy sites with adverts that give you viruses and you'll end up with loads more credit card fraud and them getting exposed to potentially actually damaging stuff (such as kiddy porn or porn that shows women enjoying violence / being hurt) because you've stopped them getting it from a reputable source that actually cares.

To be fair the impact assessment makes it clear that's exactly what they expect to happen, unfortunately they seem to be going ahead with this anyway.

That and costing £40 odd million a year.

[Lucio]

Our government are idiots who come up with bullrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbish schemes like this to try and justify their exisitance. What's worse is they simply don't have enough understanding of the subjects that they try and control, leading to massive wastes of money

[Hoonigan]

You shouldn't be using porn anyway, you filthy bunch of wotnots...

It's either that, or I subject women to the worst 30 seconds of their lives...

[peterb]

It's either that, or I subject women to the worst 30 seconds of their lives...

Which of course would be rape or serious sexual assault, unless she consented of course, in which case no problem.

Personally I’ve never considered sex to be a spectator sport...

[Hoonigan]

Which of course would be rape or serious sexual assault, unless she consented of course, in which case no problem.

Wow - I was not suggesting I'm going to force someone into the horizontal-no-pants-dance!

But.. When consent is given, they often find it to be a terrible 30 seconds. And that includes getting my kit off!

[peterb]

But.. When consent is given, they often find it to be a terrible 30 seconds. And that includes getting my kit off!

Need more practice

[Smudger]

Does this mean we'll have to register to watch Babestation? Asking for a friend.

[Spud1]

This whole "story" is just another example of the media making a story out of pretty much nothing. AVS (adult verificaiton systems) are nothing new and reputable adult sites have been using them for 20 years - in my early days as a rent-a-coder I made some extra cash at uni working on one of the early systems. Even back then they were pretty advanced and did a lot more than just checking your credit card.

It's already technically mandatory in certain countries (hence why AVS already exists as a mature market) and many of the various security/technology challenges are largely solved (not all of course, data theft is still a big concern!). What remains is enforcing the use of such systems, which is pretty much impossible to do "supplier side" when most of the content you are worried about is hosted outside of your jurisdiction and easy to bypass "client side" with a VPN (or possibly TOR, depending on how its implemented).

I predict that even if this does come into law at some point, it will make sod all difference to most people. To make a real impact you'd; have to stop piracy, and we all know just how well (or not ) that has been going for the authorities....

[philehidiot]

To be fair the impact assessment makes it clear that's exactly what they expect to happen, unfortunately they seem to be going ahead with this anyway.

That and costing £40 odd million a year.

Let's familiarise a load of teenagers with accessing the dark web along with its thriving black market in drugs and other criminality.... what could possibly go wrong?

[pp05]

Let's familiarise a load of teenagers with accessing the dark web along with its thriving black market in drugs and other criminality.... what could possibly go wrong?

Making it inconvenient will see some opt out. We know this because torrents aren't as popular as before due to streaming services. MP3 download sites aren't as popular due to spotify etc. Governments record on well thought out I.T projects leaves a lot to be desired.

We do need more effective message aimed at young people (especially boys) about skipping porn altogether for more productive pursuits. It's not good for their long-term wellbeing.

[Ttaskmaster]

Or hows about TOR?

I tried something like that a couple of times... Slowed down my internet to crash speed, pretty much. So a combination of this and generally poor ISP service and the new regs will be very effective - Can't watch internet porn if ya don't gots the internet...

Human beings have certain needs which will be fulfilled by whomever is there to provide the market.

Then what did people do in ye olden dayes before dope and heroin were invented, I wonder... They still had sex and still played violent games... but not much in the way of drugs.

If you ban porn then the teenagers will just torrent it or go to dodgy sites with adverts that give you viruses and you'll end up with loads more credit card fraud and them getting exposed to potentially actually damaging stuff

You don't think they do all this anyway?

Being honest, I have not watched porn for years

Years?
I'm counting in hours!!

As a result, I don't need a virus scanner as (due to my professional registration) everything I do has to be above board.

You don't think you can get a virus from anywhere else, then?

Adults are just going to get blackmailed because they enjoy something kinky.

Blackmail only works if you're ashamed of it...
For the record, those multi-tailed flogger whips that Ann Summers sell - they work REALLY well with basic nunchaku striking techniques!!

Ask me how I know this.....!!

Perhaps they should just state that all pr0n actresses have to be digitally "enhanced" to look like Theresa May. That should cut out under age viewing, well any viewing really.

You don't surf porn much, do you?
There's a whole category/niche dedicated to such things... Two-word term. Dunno if I can use both words for it, but it rhymes and the first word is Granny.... Happy Viewing!!

It's either that, or I subject women to the worst 30 seconds of their lives...

30 seconds.... Updating your Farcebook Relationship status?
No, wait, setting your Fantasy Football lineup!!

Let's familiarise a load of teenagers with accessing the dark web along with its thriving black market in drugs and other criminality.... what could possibly go wrong?

I'm sure most teenagers are already more familiar with it than the rest of us!
Heck, we were sourcing hardcore porn, drugs and weaponry back in school, decades before people even had mobile phones, never mind the internet and dark web!

We do need more effective message aimed at young people (especially boys) about skipping porn altogether for more productive pursuits. It's not good for their long-term wellbeing.

Dare I ask what would be less reproductive and more productive?

Being groomed, perhaps?


Going all cock-a-hoop over sticks and hoops and ball-in-cups?



How about good old fashioned stick fighting?
I can personally vouch for this being very good fun!!



Yes, that is an actual Boy Scout manual, teaching skull-bursting medieval combat...!!

[MLyons]

I tried something like that a couple of times... Slowed down my internet to crash speed, pretty much. So a combination of this and generally poor ISP

You don't think they do all this anyway?

*cough *cough Ahem. Actually no they (I'm 20 not sure if I can be lumped into that group) don't. Most people don't actually torrent and favour streaming online. For porn, people tend to stay to "known" sites due to the horrific ads on most sketchy sites.

[peterb]

Yes, that is an actual Boy Scout manual, teaching skull-bursting medieval combat...!!

From about 1912!

*cough *cough Ahem. Actually no they (I'm 20 not sure if I can be lumped into that group) don't. Most people don't actually torrent and favour streaming online. For porn, people tend to stay to "known" sites due to the horrific ads on most sketchy sites.

HEXUS never fails to educate!

[philehidiot]

With regards to the virus scanners, I've had more problems through them than I've ever had from viruses. They're a constant source of nagging and a pain in the rear, slowing everything down. I've had virus scanners do more damage than a virus would to a system. I'm obviously careful what sites I go to, what I download and what I execute and this has served me just fine for probably a decade or more. If I have a problem I think may be due to a virus then I just use one of the free online scanners. A virus has never been the problem, however.

As for drugs, oh those are older than time itself. You don't need to process an opium poppy in order to get high off it and smoking / eating cannabis has again been happening since long before we learnt how to breed / modify it to make it stronger. Drugs weren't so much invented as discovered. Then we learn how to process the plants or synthesise the active part. Aside from illegal drugs the best example is aspirin where it was originally from the White Willow tree. Then we learn to synthesise an analogue of the active ingredient so we stopped chopping down trees. Interestingly the analogue we made has an acetyl group on there which leads to it blocking more than just the specific COX enzyme that the original stuff did and leads to the anticoagulant effect.

I'm rambling. My point is that drugs have been around for longer than the human race and have been used for as long as we have been able to identify what plants to chew on when we're bored.

[Ttaskmaster]

Most people don't actually torrent and favour streaming online. For porn, people tend to stay to "known" sites due to the horrific ads on most sketchy sites.

Rather than the annoying pop-ups from the non-sketchy ones, that circumvent even popup blockers?

From about 1912!

There's another version around, where they're wearing cricket pads and helmets, supposedly being sufficient padding...