Nvidia GeForce RTX 2080 3DMark Time Spy scores surface

[Safetytrousers]

The driver the 2080 uses appears to be newer than the other two.

You need an updated driver to run a new architecture. You can't just use the one for the previous series.
The driver for the 10 series is a lot more mature than the one for the 2080 - which hasn't even been released yet. The 10 series has the driver development advantage.

[Iota]

They're playing the 'we've cornered the market and we can charge pretty much whatever we want' game.

Or the "we've cornered the market and we can try to price ourselves out of the consumer market" game. I honestly don't care if the 2080 came with a 100% performance boost to the 1080Ti. I'm not paying those sorts of prices for my hobby, I'll take a mid range card and lower the graphics settings if I have to. Either that or buy a console, which uses a competitor gpu, so who gains by pricing as they have?

[ilh]

I'm still sitting on a 9 year old 5850 and have given up with the rip off that is today's market. I looked to build a new machine last year but then decided to get a Switch, new phone (bought a Nokia 7 Plus outright which is a similar story, more than capable at less than half the price of flagship phones and has everything they're now removing) and a 360 camera instead and still had change left over.

[chj]

I'm still sitting on a 9 year old 5850 and have given up with the rip off that is today's market. I looked to build a new machine last year but then decided to get a Switch, new phone (bought a Nokia 7 Plus outright which is a similar story, more than capable at less than half the price of flagship phones and has everything they're now removing) and a 360 camera instead and still had change left over.

I had a 5850 until last year, now with a 780ti and with RAM & GPU prices as they are i'm considering swapping to console in the interim. Like people have said the performance of this card is as expected, it's not half bad. It's just the poor value with the price they're selling it at.

[Tunnah]

Or the "we've cornered the market and we can try to price ourselves out of the consumer market" game. I honestly don't care if the 2080 came with a 100% performance boost to the 1080Ti. I'm not paying those sorts of prices for my hobby, I'll take a mid range card and lower the graphics settings if I have to. Either that or buy a console, which uses a competitor gpu, so who gains by pricing as they have?

Your own comment answers your own question mate. You're not the target audience for these sort of cards. For a lot of people, PCs are a big chunk of their entertainment, and having the better cards improves on that. Hell I have a 1080Ti but if I had the money I'd get a 2080Ti too. Yeah the cost is downright disgusting, but when measured against enjoyment and usage, in the long run it'll be viewed as worth it.

[Stu C]

No, not really.
The article states the RTX 2080 is 35% faster in the benchmark than the GTX 1080.
This figure can only get better with any driver improvements or software optimizations.

The 2080 is 5% faster than a 1080Ti and is £100 more expensive.

So an extra £100 gets you an extra 3 FPS.

[Safetytrousers]

The 2080 is 5% faster than a 1080Ti and is £100 more expensive.

So an extra £100 gets you an extra 3 FPS.

The 2080 is the replacement for the 1080, not the 1080ti. The 2080ti replaces the 1080ti in the line up (according to the naming scheme), and it is not the 2080ti in the benchmark. The 5% figure comes from the article comparing the 2080 to the 1080ti.
Moreover - it is not confirmed the generic GPU is the 2080 - for all we know it is the 2070.

[FRISH]

The 2080 is 5% faster than a 1080Ti and is £100 more expensive.

So an extra £100 gets you an extra 3 FPS.

The 2080 is the replacement for the 1080, not the 1080ti. The 2080ti replaces the 1080ti in the line up (according to the naming scheme), and it is not the 2080ti in the benchmark. The 5% figure comes from the article comparing the 2080 to the 1080ti.
Moreover - it is not confirmed the generic GPU is the 2080 - for all we know it is the 2070.

That depends on who you ask, some have the opinion that the 2080Ti is more of a replacement for a Titan GPU considering the costs rather than going by model names. Regardless there's still the point that the value is questionable when really we should have seen better value given the time that has elapsed since the 1k series. Still I will await to see a full review, however I've gone from the opinion that it's time to replace my entire system that is now ageing to wondering whether it's worth it when every component seems so expensive now.

[Safetytrousers]

That depends on who you ask, some have the opinion that the 2080Ti is more of a replacement for a Titan GPU considering the costs rather than going by model names.

Yes indeed, that's why I added 'according to the naming scheme'.

[kalniel]

Yes indeed, that's why I added 'according to the naming scheme'.

Welcome to Hexus.

Names don't really count for much, since they are arbitrary, but pricing certainly does tell us what nVidia considers a market replacement or not.

[philehidiot]

Names don't really count for much, since they are arbitrary, but pricing certainly does tell us what nVidia considers a market replacement or not.

I consider AMD to be a market replacement for Nvidia. After this utter farce and the feeling that they just want every last penny out of me I will not be playing. I'm going for a last gen AMD card rather than paying these stupid prices which are clearly there because they have a surplus of old cards they want rid of. I've said it before - I can easily afford to buy one of these cards. I am their target audience in that I'm a well off professional with the disposable income and a gamer. I just won't pay those prices on principle and that's the effect they've had on the market. People have just gone "sod off" regardless of whether they can afford it.

[tinbin]

RTX 2080 card are to expensive better sticking with or getting a 10 series card

[silent]

isn't the 5% performance improvement over the TI rather than standard 1080 which would make it fairly good? the new TI is around a grand isn't it and will be much faster.

i'm not saying its mega good, but its not bad - money aside! i'll stick with my current gpu for a good while as it does what i need it too.

[XeNoNF50]

The 2080 is 5% faster than a 1080Ti and is £100 more expensive.

So an extra £100 gets you an extra 3 FPS.

I'd probably still get the newer on though since it looks like DLSS in games that support it will give you some extra frames back for no noticeable loss of visual fidelity.

[Syphadeus]

Or the "we've cornered the market and we can try to price ourselves out of the consumer market" game. I honestly don't care if the 2080 came with a 100% performance boost to the 1080Ti. I'm not paying those sorts of prices for my hobby, I'll take a mid range card and lower the graphics settings if I have to. Either that or buy a console, which uses a competitor gpu, so who gains by pricing as they have?

Well, they do, clearly. What with them making record profits and seemingly having dodged the bullet of their 10 series backlog by forcing shipments of overstock onto AIB partners. They gain an awful lot. Not sure if you've noticed but there seems to be a lot of people pre-ordering these cards at the insane prices when all we've got to go on is BS from Nvidia and limited leaked benchmarks as regards to the performance they offer.

What will happen is that if the general release results in low uptake, they will then consider lowering prices but my betting is that sales volume is probably not going to be an issue for them.

AMD being in bed with Sony and MS is something of a double-edged sword. It has guaranteed them income and kept them stable from that point of view, but where is their competing offering? It doesn't exist right now. Their focus has been mostly on CPUs (where they are doing well) and this has been to the detriment of the high end GPU space. This pricing debacle and Nvidia's monopoly wouldn't be how it is today if all things were rosy for AMD. So they apparently have 7nm parts coming soon. It's fluff until you see it and worth less until you can buy it.

AMD aren't bringing any credible competition to the GPU scene right now. They arguable haven't for years now. Jumping onto a console won't hurt them but it's not going to be any skin of Nvidia's nose either.

[philehidiot]

I wouldn't say AMD aren't credible competition. As long as they can get their prices low enough to compete then they have plenty of chance. The problem is that I suspect their cards are rather pricey to make and so there's only so low they can go. There aren't bad cards, just bad prices.