Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR
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PC-LAD
They have it in development, it is opensource alongside Vulcan
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lumireleon
............where is the Red Team in the wake of all these real time ray tracing phenomena
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philehidiot
Wouldn't it be hilarious if AMD cards worked better with ray tracing than the new Nvidia cards...
I hope AMD can refresh their GPUs to make them less toasty as mine is incredibly noisy to the point of stupidity.
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
Last time I checked 6 months ago AMD cards were slower than Nvidia ones using the software fallback layer,despite according to AT the AMD cards having "intermediate" hardware support. The issue is DXR has been developed with Nvidia to a degree AFAIK,so I think AMD really needs to push,otherwise even if their cards are better than Pascal,it won't be reflected in benchmarks.
ehhh, we've seen how well Vulcan performs for optimized games and hardware, though amd's version of ray-tracing is opensource that is just so developers can Taylor it to how they want. If vulcan takes off from this "raytracing marketing stunt" amd could see a jump in market share but they will have to be fast
Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR
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Originally Posted by
PC-LAD
ehhh, we've seen how well Vulcan performs for optimized games and hardware, though amd's version of ray-tracing is opensource that is just so developers can Taylor it to how they want. If vulcan takes off from this "raytracing marketing stunt" amd could see a jump in market share but they will have to be fast
Nvidia has tended to have more sway over MS than AMD has had in recent years - look at the whole DX10/DX10.1 thing for example.
Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR
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PC-LAD
clapping:
i prefer jazz hands
Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR
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Originally Posted by
CAT-THE-FIFTH
Last time I checked 6 months ago AMD cards were slower than Nvidia ones using the software fallback layer,despite according to AT the AMD cards having "intermediate" hardware support. The issue is DXR has been developed with Nvidia to a degree AFAIK,so I think AMD really needs to push,otherwise even if their cards are better than Pascal,it won't be reflected in benchmarks.
Yea AMD not having, and afaik no announcement of, DXR drivers sucks. Maybe their just not going to bother for their consumer cards because it wouldn't be worth it (really bad fps), I'd love to know, purely from a technical perspective, how they fair when not using that fallback layer though.
I mean on paper, technically, the way GCN is designed should make it better than pre-Volta/Turing silicon when it comes to how a single ray can invoke different shaders and texture depending on what they hit, because (afaik) AMD still uses a hardware based scheduler those new workloads can possibly be added directly to the scheduler instead of having to be returned to the CPU and back again.
Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR
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Corky34
Yea AMD not having, and afaik no announcement of, DXR drivers sucks. Maybe their just not going to bother for their consumer cards because it wouldn't be worth it (really bad fps), I'd love to know, purely from a technical perspective, how they fair when not using that fallback layer though.
I mean on paper, technically, the way GCN is designed should make it better than pre-Volta/Turing silicon when it comes to how a single ray can invoke different shaders and texture depending on what they hit, because (afaik) AMD still uses a hardware based scheduler those new workloads can possibly be added directly to the scheduler instead of having to be returned to the CPU and back again.
The problem is on paper AMD has a lot of good tech,but it might be down to a lack of focus and a lack of money,but it does seem underutilised. Hopefully with Ryzen helping the company they can start to try and push the software side too.
Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR
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CAT-THE-FIFTH
Nvidia has tended to have more sway over MS than AMD has had in recent years - look at the whole DX10/DX10.1 thing for example.
very true but i still feel as if amd, though trailing, will get the support they want due to the slowly rising growth in their whole platform use
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i prefer the jazz to the jazz hands :p
Re: Nvidia highlights arrival of support for Microsoft DXR
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Ozaron
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But note that Nvidia also reminds us that the introduction of GeForce RTX 20 Series GPUs was ‘seismic’ and a ‘revolution for the games industry’.
"Look! Microsoft is entertaining our gigantic corporate ego! This gives credence and validity to our claims about the value of our latest, unpopular products, and thus credence and validity to the prices we charge for them!"
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philehidiot
Probably including all the marketable metadata he can suck from everything that passes through Job's Windows 10 machine.
As if any of these three parties were previously unaware of Job's online shopping habits. But none appear to be free of dreary administrative spying duties..
Nvidia Unpopular? Are you high? Have you seen their Q reports for the last 2yrs? record after record, for margin, sales, income etc. Thank your drug dealer, he's got the good stuff I guess :) Have you seen their stock? LOL. Just hit all time high this month. So when your stock goes from $20-280 in a 3 years, the people don't like you. Ummm...OK.