QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

[Iota]

No plans to upgrade at all currently, built a new gaming PC for myself (Intel) and a new household PC for my mum (Ryzen). Both are suited to what they're respectively used for.

I am however impressed with the Ryzen, but really dislike the cooler mounting on the AMD system compared to Intel. That is literally my only gripe.

[Phrontis]

Neither.
It'll be a monster Threadripper for the next build. Just waiting for the motherboards to come out with at least 2 PCIe 4 M2 slots that can be setup in RAID 1, even better would be 4 M2 slots that could be setup in 2 pairs of RAID 1. One pair for the OS and the other for data.
I tend not to update my PC's very often, I build fairly high end and then 5 or 6 years later do the same, been doing it since the early 90's, it works for me. I think I'm on build 5 at the moment and its around 4 years old, so towards the end of next year maybe.

[Phage]

Just dropped in a 3800x into my X370 board. Much cheaper than a new board and chip from Intel

[DanceswithUnix]

Just dropped in a 3800x into my X370 board. Much cheaper than a new board and chip from Intel

I have to wonder what percentage of the chips pulled during these upgrades get put into new motherboards to be re-used. There should be quite a market for cheap motherboards compatible with old chips (I notice some X570 boards aren't compatible, or cheap).

[Percy1983]

Already gone Ryzen recently with a 3700x, helping a friend spec a PC and he has asked for a Ryzen chip (probably 3600).

Seems if you want money isn't an object for every last frame its intel, but if you do any productivity (like me) its Ryzen and if its a budget/mid range gaming PC its Ryzen.

[thewelshbrummie]

Clearly I'm in the minority (as in no one else so far has said anything other than Ryzen). However, I build around motherboard features & want my next build to be mATX - which basically rules out Ryzen as there's nothing on the AMD side with built-in wifi, 2x m.2 slots and a decent number of Sata sockets for the hybrid gaming rig/DAS that is my preferred way of going.

Therefore, unless there's an AMD motherboard that I've missed (with forum posts both here and elsewhere coming up empty), I'll be going 10th gen Intel when it's released.

[spacein_vader]

Clearly I'm in the minority (as in no one else so far has said anything other than Ryzen). However, I build around motherboard features & want my next build to be mATX - which basically rules out Ryzen as there's nothing on the AMD side with built-in wifi, 2x m.2 slots and a decent number of Sata sockets for the hybrid gaming rig/DAS that is my preferred way of going.

Therefore, unless there's an AMD motherboard that I've missed (with forum posts both here and elsewhere coming up empty), I'll be going 10th gen Intel when it's released.

Depending on your definition of decent (this board has 6,) SATA ports this could be your solution. https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/TUF-B450M-PRO-GAMING/

[Percy1983]

Depending on your definition of decent (this board has 6,) SATA ports this could be your solution. https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/TUF-B450M-PRO-GAMING/

I thought the same thing and just add USB/PCIE wireless to whichever spec required, hardly a big compromise.

[Euphonium]

Ryzen. Intel might technically have the best single thread performance and all-core overclock speeds, but the price they charge is WAY too high for me to justify. I need good performance/£ more than I need performance at any price.

Besides, for gaming purposes my i7-3770 @4.2GHz still does everything I need it to.

[theleader]

Ryzen!!!!

[SlickR]

I'm a PCIe hog, so whatever provides good value-for-money in the HEDT arena. Which looks like currently:
* Ryzen Threadripper 2920X: 12 core Zen+ from Oct 2018 12nm.
* Core i9-10900X: 10-core Cascade-Lake-X from like, now ish (can't see it for sale), 14nm.

As I can't find anybody selling the Intel chip yet, going on RRP, $649 for AMD vs $599 for Intel.

Boils down to whether I think an extra $50 for 2 more cores on an already insane amount is worth the money. The Intel 12-core variant is $50 more again, that seems like a silly purchase, but saving $50 is not to be sniffed at.

Probably the rest of the platform would be the deciding factor, i.e. what the chipsets provide, motherboard options and their respective costs.

Ryzen 3000 desktop variants offer more performance than Ryzen 2000 threadripper, you'd be better off buying the 3900x or actually waiting few more weeks and getting the new 3000 series threadripper.

[SlickR]

Clearly I'm in the minority (as in no one else so far has said anything other than Ryzen). However, I build around motherboard features & want my next build to be mATX - which basically rules out Ryzen as there's nothing on the AMD side with built-in wifi, 2x m.2 slots and a decent number of Sata sockets for the hybrid gaming rig/DAS that is my preferred way of going.

Therefore, unless there's an AMD motherboard that I've missed (with forum posts both here and elsewhere coming up empty), I'll be going 10th gen Intel when it's released.

There are several boards with build in wifi and 2x and more m2 slots. The MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION, the Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Hero, there are TWO versions one that comes with built in wifi6, the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI).

There are several boards that come with 3+ m.2 slots as well, etc... There are very high quality x570 boards out there for sure.

[Jonj1611]

There are several boards with build in wifi and 2x and more m2 slots. The MSI PRESTIGE X570 CREATION, the Asus X570 Crosshair VIII Hero, there are TWO versions one that comes with built in wifi6, the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI).

There are several boards that come with 3+ m.2 slots as well, etc... There are very high quality x570 boards out there for sure.

That's great but they stated they wanted MATX

[3dcandy]

Clearly I'm in the minority (as in no one else so far has said anything other than Ryzen). However, I build around motherboard features & want my next build to be mATX - which basically rules out Ryzen as there's nothing on the AMD side with built-in wifi, 2x m.2 slots and a decent number of Sata sockets for the hybrid gaming rig/DAS that is my preferred way of going.

Therefore, unless there's an AMD motherboard that I've missed (with forum posts both here and elsewhere coming up empty), I'll be going 10th gen Intel when it's released.

2 x m.2 and m-atx not too many Intel boards with that either. This is basically as the chipset setup means a second m.2 slot needs a bit more work and space is at a premium on an m-atx board.
However you could use an m.2 to pci-x adapter easily enough. Choice is yours I guess but I kinda think your logic is a bit skewed

[edmundhonda]

Clearly I'm in the minority (as in no one else so far has said anything other than Ryzen). However, I build around motherboard features & want my next build to be mATX - which basically rules out Ryzen as there's nothing on the AMD side with built-in wifi, 2x m.2 slots and a decent number of Sata sockets for the hybrid gaming rig/DAS that is my preferred way of going.

Looking at PCPartPicker, there's precisely 1 z390 mATX motherboard with at least 2 m.2 slots, at least 6 SATA ports, and built in wifi, the snappily named Asus TUF Z390M-PRO GAMING (WI-FI). 2 more boards if you count 4 SATA ports as enough. 0 b450, x470 or x570 boards that fit those requirements.

There's nothing wrong with wanting a very specific set of features! Unfortunately for you, mATX is far less popular than it used to be.

[PMMEASURES]

Ryzen probably - I not gaming hardcore enough to really need to go Intel top end cherry picked silicon to gain 5-6 FPS in games in 4K. I think for me PCIe lanes available is more important on any future CPU think next system for me will be a PCie5 hopefully AMD will spit something out soon.