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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Quote Originally Posted by edmundhonda View Post
    Looking at PCPartPicker, there's precisely 1 z390 mATX motherboard with at least 2 m.2 slots, at least 6 SATA ports, and built in wifi, the snappily named Asus TUF Z390M-PRO GAMING (WI-FI). 2 more boards if you count 4 SATA ports as enough. 0 b450, x470 or x570 boards that fit those requirements.

    There's nothing wrong with wanting a very specific set of features! Unfortunately for you, mATX is far less popular than it used to be.
    They did state 10th Gen Intel, it it probably won't work on that board as with intel new CPU = new board, so who knows what will be available.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    I cant even decide between current GPUs (mainly through lack of pertinent reviews), so have next to no chance of deciding this...

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Ryzen most likely next year, an 8 core something at the moment I have i5 6500.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    I went Ryzen 3700X and I'm well pleased with the result

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheesemp View Post
    Personally I'd go Ryzen as I think Intel don't deserve my cash (Hyperthread security, late to the 7nm/8+ core party) however I've no ideal when I can afford to replace my still very well working OC'd 3570k... (The joys of parenthood expenses)

    I also really like AMD commitment to forward/backwards socket support.
    Ha. Same boat here.
    I5 3570k and 2 kids

    I'm looking at a Ryzen 5 3600 core upgrade.
    Twice as fast multi core and 25% single core performance for £370 all in.

    Holding out for as long as I can.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zatoichi View Post
    Ha. Same boat here.
    I5 3570k and 2 kids

    I'm looking at a Ryzen 5 3600 core upgrade.
    Twice as fast multi core and 25% single core performance for £370 all in.

    Holding out for as long as I can.
    I would recommend go for at least sixteen threads for your next one. Even if you have to get an earlier gen ryzen. They are whole threads.
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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Ryzen Threadripper 1920x running at 3800Mhz.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    It's too early to say - depends entirely on what Intel's new CPUs are capable of in real world scenarios. AMD currently have it licked for multi threaded performance, and Intel have maintained the lead in single threaded performance. Currently, most software I use (almost all the games, Visual Studio etc) are only using 1-4 threads at most (with most being 1-2) so single core performance is still king for me.
    If I had to buy right now, I would go Intel. I likely will next year when intel release their new chips. If I had to consider the cost, I would likely go for a Ryzen. It's such a shame that this year's Ryzen could barely even equal Intel's single core performance (which is a relatively old product now), they just didn't move the needle there at all.

    It's very much like the graphics card market - AMD are the underdogs here and there, and in both cases offer the best value for money, whilst their competitors offer a better product for gaming, but charge a lot more for it.

    You very much need to look at your actual use case (rather that synthetic benchmarks) and budget and then you can decide pretty easily imo.

    FYI: I am still rocking a Skylake 6700k @ 4.4 - there is absolutely no need for me to upgrade at the moment, given that even the most expensive Intel or AMD option right now will give me a massive...5-10% performance increase in gaming. Both would offer me much bigger advantages in anything multi core (streaming for example), and the Ryzen chips in particular...but as it is, no real world benefit to upgrading.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dashers View Post
    I'm a PCIe hog, so whatever provides good value-for-money in the HEDT arena. Which looks like currently:
    * Ryzen Threadripper 2920X: 12 core Zen+ from Oct 2018 12nm.
    * Core i9-10900X: 10-core Cascade-Lake-X from like, now ish (can't see it for sale), 14nm.

    As I can't find anybody selling the Intel chip yet, going on RRP, $649 for AMD vs $599 for Intel.

    Boils down to whether I think an extra $50 for 2 more cores on an already insane amount is worth the money. The Intel 12-core variant is $50 more again, that seems like a silly purchase, but saving $50 is not to be sniffed at.

    Probably the rest of the platform would be the deciding factor, i.e. what the chipsets provide, motherboard options and their respective costs.
    I'm not fully up with this, but the 3rd gen Ryzens are PCI 4.0 with the right board.
    https://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/133721-amd-ryzen-7-3800x/

    So that might be a way forward too? Though it's very possible that I'm miles out of my depth...

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Most likely Intel Core for me, probably another i7. I've never been a fan of the Red team.
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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Just replaced my 2011 vintage i7-2600k, 32GB DDR3-1600 and ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance with a Ryzen 7 3700X, 64GB DDR4-3200 and an Asus ROG Strix X470-F (because screw X570s with their fans and costing nearly 100eur more for the same board feature set). Kept the GTX1080 I had in the i7. So I guess that answers that question...

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    My last AMD cpu was about 17 years ago!
    I buy what is the best and available at the time of upgrade/new build.
    AMD finally has it this time, Can't wait.
    It's either 3950x or depending on clock speeds the next gen Threadripper, I have always been on the HEDT platform but the 3950x is almost at that level on the mainstream end which is amazing.
    Currently on 5 year old Haswell 5960X, It's done well and the longest running pc I have ever owned, Usually build a new every 2 years but have not needed to with it.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zatoichi View Post
    Ha. Same boat here.
    I5 3570k and 2 kids

    I'm looking at a Ryzen 5 3600 core upgrade.
    Twice as fast multi core and 25% single core performance for £370 all in.

    Holding out for as long as I can.
    I have just come from a 3570k to a 3700x, the difference is massive. In my case I also do photo/video editing, if not I would have gone for the 3600.

    ps, only one kid here.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    I'm still getting along ok using an Asus ROG laptop of rapidly accumulating vintage (i7 4720HQ, GTX 970m 3Gb, 16Gb RAM, m.2/SSD storage and 1080p... which won't max out anything relatively recent or new anymore) and also have a custom build (i7 6700K, GTX 1070, 16Gb RAM, all m.2 storage and 2560x1080) that I'm currently waiting to get back to grips with... it's been in storage for a year and I've had health issues leading to me not gaming anything like as much as I'd like nor to the extent to make an upgrade worthwhile anytime soon (nm that illness has left me broke)

    Mind you, I only really play games and when able to am very glad of that escape/luxury, so dropping or tweaking settings to keep fps up is ok by me, though most of my games tend to be strategy so either lower requirements or higher fps levels not needed so much.
    However, if I were upgrading the desktop at least right now, and possibly anytime in the next 1-2 years at least, then I'd definitely be looking at a Ryzen... probably 3600X through to 3800X depending, or whatever AMD do next. AMD's catch up over the last couple of years has been incredible tbh, and they're still climbing.
    I'd also if possible take the opportunity to upgrade GPU and monitor/resolution too, a 5700XT at least, or whatever AMD release to compete higher, and 3440x1440, like I originally had in mind but couldn't stretch to 3 years ago. I'd then use the replaced parts as the core to build a mostly emulation PC for my more retro gaming oriented gf... win-win.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    I would like to go to Ryzen but there is so much BIOS/software tweaking here and there, and i'm not geek enough for that. So, for now, I decided to pick i7-9700 (non-K) and see what they're offered in the next 2-3 years. Based on the software I used Photoshop (digital painting) and Blender (3D modeling) seem single thread performance still kicking the most.

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    Re: QOTW: AMD Ryzen or Intel Core for your next PC?

    Ryzen always. Intel just aren't good value.

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